[sub]Sorry if this has already be discussed or if this is the wrong forum, but:[/sub]
What’s so manly about a bunch of punks climbing into a car, driving down to another part of town, shooting into windows (usually the wrong ones it seems) and then speeding away like chicken-shits?
I don’t get it.
Here in Southern California, it seems to be a daily occurance where some gang members gun down some innocents, mistakenly thinking they’re from some rival gang. Mothers, children, teachers…babies for crying out loud…no one is spared.
Is this tough? In feudal Japan, if you had a problem with somebody, you faced him down, one-on-one. No guns. No back-up hoods. No hit-and-run tactics. What’s so tough about anonymously shooting at some people while speeding around in a car? And do these fuckers go back to their rocks and brag about how bad they are that they shot up some twelve year old girl?
This makes me sick.
Can anyone educate me on how this is supposed to be macho? And does anyone know how one of these gang members feel when somebody guns down their mother by “mistake?”
Uhh, I guess I shouldn’t be complaining if, in the state where you live, “regular ol’ civilians” are shooting back. I don’t need bullets whizzing past me from both sides, thanks.
Yeah, I’m sure that a young mother walking with her infant will miraculously be made bulletproof by the gun in her handbag when some asshole in a passing Lincoln shoots a burst out the window with an Uzi.
Ever heard of a place calle Sarajevo?
:rolleyes:
(Damn. I’ve been spending too much time in the Pit lately).
I have, across the street from my house, what I’ve called the “Hell House” for about 8 years now. It’s a rental. It’s a duplex. I posted a PIT topic about the Meth lab in the back and then the “hypochondriac-bitch-cunt-dog-abusing-fuck-hole-from-hell” that sucks up about 3000 dollars a month with her “I’m dying and must call 911” shit.
The new FUN thing is they park their cars in front of my house. I’ve had people banging on the doors at 1 or 2 in the morning looking for them, the “Hell House” people. These high or drunk people are CONVINCED these asshole actually LIVE in the house their cars are parked in front of. They usually park here. If the spot is taken, (by my car or another), they have slashed tires and vandalized vehicles so that they can “claim” this space. It’s not that their wacko drug buddies “know” they live here; they want them to “think” they do. It puts me, my friends and everyone in my home at risk. I don’t think it would mean a whole lot if I had a gun…
The only thing I’ve been able to do is get a “gang park” going on. I have pals with old, rusty trucks that are not worth stealing or fucking with, park in front of my house. But I do worry about some stupid fuck shooting over here rather than across the street. I’ve been sorely tempted to put up a sign that the, “drug dealing assholes that ripped you off live over there”.
Is it any wonder to anybody why I’m in love with Byzantine?
I don’t believe that these worthless shits are shooting at civilians because they won’t retaliate…they’re trying to kill rival gang members. It’s just that they’re fucking idiots and can’t figure out how to isolate their intended targets. As far as I’m concerned (and I’m really rather sad to admit this), if these punks want to off each other every other week, go for it. Just leave innocent people out of it. Get better aim. Develop tactics. Confirm your information. Whatever, I could care less.
And my original question remains unaddressed: isn’t the act of drive-bys the ultimate in gutless cowardice? If these scumbags are supposed to be so tough, why don’t they take care of business face-to-face, instead of popping a gun and running away? And the group mentality of “Me and my ten brothers can kick your solitary ass…just let MadDog and Johnny hold you down while we punch you out”…jeez, I would hope eleven of you could take down one individual…but how about just you and me, no weapons, no buddies, one-on-one? No? But maybe you’ll just drive by my window later and shoot at me. Yeah, you’re bad.
Fucking pathetic pieces of chicken shit.
Poohpah - the drive-by isn’t meant to be tough, its meant to be effective. And it is effective, even when hitting the wrong targets, in the same way that any terrorism is effective. It makes people afraid to cross them.
And I personally think the civilian arms are a solution, or at least part of one. Yes, lots of people are lousy shots, and lots of stray bullets are problem themselves. But there are also a lot of us who do know how to shoot effectively, and once people start dying while performing drive-bys, then they’ll stop doing them.
AH! But some of them die from drive-bys, does that stop them? Arming civilians won’t stop any of the violence, in fact it could make it worse. These people doing the drive bys don’t seem to really care about human life, theirs or anothers. I think that the gangs would not have a problem upping the violence to bombing and shooting the general public. Then what?
One of the aspects of a drive-by shooting is it’s unpredictability. If X knows that Y is coming by to shoot him at around 11:00, he will be armed and ready to shoot back. Obviously this defeats the purpose of X killing Y while remaining alive himself.
These are also terrorist acts, meant to frighten both the intended victim and his neighbors. The message is “don’t harbor X in your hood” or “you people (insert group affiliation here) should move.”
The very randomness of a drive-by prevents me from being ready with MY weapon at the right time & location. Unless of course, they are shooting at one specific target on my street with boring regularity, in which case they are easy to predict and ambush.
And yes chalupa, it is chicken shit. But the “macho” thing has kind of fallen by the wayside. Back in the day, if you couldn’t kick someone’s ass with your bare hands, you’d better take up track. And knifing someone takes a lot more fortitude than shooting them, IMHO. You have to get up real close, maybe get some blood sprayed on you, exert a little physical effort. Nasty, brutal, gory and not for everyone.
Probably most modern gang-bangers don’t really have it in them. They think that the only way to get respect is to have a gun, and in their own case, they’re right. As in the scene from Grand Canyon, when the hood asked Danny Glover if he would even be talking to him or respecting him if he wasn’t pointing a gun at Danny, Danny says nope. The hood says something about how that proves his point and why he has to carry a gun.
It’s lame. But I’m sure I’ll get flamed about being some stupid white girl who doesn’t understand what’s REALLY going down. Right, whatever.