My friend works part-time at a small “Mom and Pop” fast food place and makes 7 dollars an hour.
The drive thru is very popular because the restaurant is close to an office building and most of the workers prefer the drive thru, my friend has began charging about a quarter more than the meal actually costs and he saves those quarters and deposits them with his paychecks every 2 weeks, atleast that is the plan.
He figures that if atleast 10 cars come every hour, and they always do, instead of making 7 an hour he will make 9.50 an hour.
For every 10 cars he makes an extra 2.50 so by his calculations on an average day he should make about 15-20 dollars in extra “tips”, he says that is a conservative estimate.
If somebody orders less than 4 or 5 dollars he will not charge the extra money because the risk of getting caught becomes higher but he says most people spend at least 10 dollars.
I know it’s stealing but I also know he is going to do it or is doing it so will it work?
He wants to save the quarters up for his personal spending money and his pay check would help his Mother with rent…or maybe it was the other way around.
Yes, I am actually talking about someone else and not myself, this “friend” is actually a friend.
Theft is theft and he is going to get caught and fired very quickly. He doesn’t even have the “defense” of ripping off a faceless corporation…he is ripping off a small business. there is a special circle of Hell for such as your “friend.”
Will it work?.. probably.
Will he get greedy and try to get a way with a couple of quarters and pretty soon a dollar? … very likely.
Is it clever? … hardly. More like stupid.
He might want to look into doing temp work where he can actually make 10+ dollars per hour working in an office instead of a restaurant. Now that would be clever.
Oh, sure it’s clever. And it’s stupid. And it’s just plain wrong. He’s racking up seriously bad karma.
He’d better knock it off before he gets fired and charged with fraud. If his little sceme is discovered by a customer first, he could get the owners in trouble as well. And he doesn’t sound like the kind of guy to stand up and take the blame. I bet he say he was told he could do this by his boss. What a creep!
It’s not clever. It is dishonest and immoral - I doubt the latter particularly bothers your friend, but the former should.
Do you seriously need to ask this, START? Has the wrongness of this actually passed you by? I frankly don’t understand how your only consideration could be whether or not he’ll successfully make a quick buck off it. 
How many times are you going to ask us to validate your and your friends’ juvenile behaviour?
Of course it’s wrong and he will probably get caught at some point but I am curious, I want to see how far he is going take this.
Will he end up making 20 dollars an hour at a drive thru? I have to wait and see.
I don’t believe he will be 18 for a whole year so the minor thing might help if he gets caught within the next 11 or 12 months.
Anyway, I think it’s wrong and I wouldn’t do it myself but I am waiting to see what happens.
sigh Second that.
If the folks at the office building next door are regular customers they probably already know how much a number 7 costs. I used to go to the wendy’s at my school 3 or 4 times a week, and I was peeved whenever they raised their prices a few cents.
You and he both know full well that this is an illegal action which hurts not only the customer, but in all probability hurts his employers also - certainly it will marr their reputation as a business. Despite lip service to the morality of the situation, your ongoing expressed concern is whether it’s profitable.
You’re treating this like it’s some kind of ‘Reality TV’ show, staged for your entertainment - and it’s not. The criminal aspect is NOT offset just because you think it is entertaining. It’s certainly not offset because he is a minor.
I can’t even formulate a proper response to this because I’m just so completely frustrated that you don’t seem to see the ‘big picture’ here at all; you’re so enchanted by the little details that capture your fancy.
1000 Times?
Seriously though, I don’t see how this is like any other times especially since it has little to actually do with me, it’s not something I would approve of or do myself. This person has their mind made up that this is a good idea and they have “justified” it to themselves and will attempt to carry this scam out no matter what anybody says, I think it’s stupid, immoral and dishonest but since it’s going to happen despite what I think of it I was just asking your opinions on if you thought it would work not if it is the right thing to do.
How long is it going to take for someone to notice that their habitual order costs different amounts, depending on who is at the window? Not very long, methinks.
Dammit ,I feel like an idiot now :smack: , not for spelling somewhat incorrectly but for making this thread and convincing some people that I’m a jerk and for what?
Something that someone else is doing that I happen to think is wrong ** but have no control over the situation, I was just asking if it would work.
I hate threads that end up like this and I seriously didn’t expect to be chastised because, I repeat this scam is not something I would do.**I might be stupid sometimes but I’m not a thief.
I could see these reactions if I said “I’m over charging people at work…” but it’s not me doing it.
I’m sorry for pissing folks off.
Have you considered notifying your friend’s employers?
(a) You claim to be a Christian, no? What are the implications of “Thou shalt not steal” in this situation? You may not be a thief, but you know that a theft is occurring and you’re not doing anything about it.
(b) If your friend actually does go through with this scam, he deserves to be fired. Not only for stealing, but for being a dumbass. Because, frankly, one of the primary rules for successfully committing crimes is not telling other people about them.
What bullshit. There is something you can say to make him stop, and it goes along the lines of “If you’re going to brag to me about ripping off your employers and their customers, then I am going to tell your boss. Don’t make me a party to your theft by telling me about it. What you are doing is wrong”.
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You’ve said several times in this thread that there’s nothing you can do about it. That’s not correct. What you can do is very simple: tell him you don’t approve of his actions. If he continues, consider even shunning him as a friend.
If your friend was committing more serious crimes, would you still stand by him? At what point do his actions become a problem for you? If he were holding up 7-11s, would you ask the same questions you’re asking here?
Don’t be a bystander in life. Be the guy who makes a difference.
I’m a Christian and he is a Muslim and even with his faith he justifies this, I have considered tattling but I could count the times I have been in that joint on my right or left hand. I have seen the owners a few times but do not know them well but I have to see this guy at school every day. Would it have made a difference if I said casual acquaintance or classmate instead of friend?
I said that dude, but not in that way, I said; “I know too much already let’s pretend I didn’t hear that” he basically asked me what I thought and I told him that it wasn’t a good idea and sarcastically wished him good luck.
So? What difference does that make?
I’m also curious about your use of the word “tattling”. You might want to see if there are any synonyms that are less pejorative.
So you think being an accessory to a crime is o.k., and that trying actively to stop it is “tattling”?
Moving this from IMHO to The BBQ Pit. :rolleyes:
I think part of the problem in this thread in regard to you is that you come across as being somewhat enthusiastic about the scheme itself. Why do you want so badly to know if it will “work?” What difference does it make to you whether or not he can pull it off or how much he nets as a result? This question, apart from being naive, makes you sound like you’re interested in it in an unhealthy way but not wanting to admit it to us.
If I knew somebody was up to no good in this way I’d be more interested in knowing what I might be able to do to persuade them otherwise, or what might happen to them if they’re caught – not whether or not people on a message board thought he could pull it off, and profitably at that.