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Oh, well that explains it all.
She is an epileptic…so she is not responsible.
We will now need to remove all the children in the homes of epileptics as they are obviously in grave danger.
dhanson…I dont believe you.I dont!
Kellibelli: My husband had the same reaction when I told him about the epilepsy angle. I had to show him the article before he’d believe me. I’m epileptic too, but that kind of confusion doesn’t happen to me after I have seizures. It is common, though. I’m just lucky. I do get confused after seizures, but not for that legth of time. A minute or two, at most.
I hope that her seizure disorder had something to do with this, I really do. The one thing I do [not want to believe is that this was deliberate, premeditated murder.
There are many degrees and variations of epilepsy. Yes, some seizures can and do make a person completely unaware of things they are doing. Epilepsy is still very misunderstood.
I know a woman who walked through a glass sliding door, into her neighbor’s backyard, and laid down in the neighbors flower bed. She was oblivious to the many cuts on her body and the blood all over her clothing. She ended up having quite a few stitches and doesn’t remember a thing.
This same woman has moved furniture in her home without knowing. Completely rearranged the living room, moved the bed into the kitchen, moved all of her dished into the basement.
The worse episode was the time she woke up in her bed, naked, numb (in some parts of her body), and in horrendous pain. She had gone into a seizure, filled the bathtub with scalding water and then lay inside the water long enough to cover her left arm, left torso, and left thigh with 2nd and 3rd degree burns. That was 6 years ago and she is still having reparative surgery, skin transplants, therapy for her arm and reconstruction of her left breast.
For the most part, she lives a normal life with medication, but after a period of time, her medication needs to be adjusted. Sometimes these seizures come without warning.
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KITTEN
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I remembered something that happened to me shortly after my daughter was born. She ws only a month or two old, and I was sitting on the couch, holding her. My husband had gone to the store, and he was just walking back in. Next thing I know, I wake up, laying on the couch, my husband holding the baby. He told me that he came in, said hello, I looked at him, and started falling off the couch. I was having a seizure, with the baby in my arms. He snatched the baby out of my arms with one hand, and tried to keep me from whacking my head on our hardwood floor with the other. Scared me witless.
When my husband and I decided to get pregnant, I went to my neurologist with the idea that maybe I could get off my meds, since I hadn’t had a seizure in a little over a year. My doctor said “Uh uh. No way.”
Now I know why.
holding my head
Jesus H Christ!
the lady with the bathtub…does she have kids? oh god…scalds hurt more than anything on earth, she didnt feel it???
I am gonna be sick. You guys really think her epilepsy could have caused this?
if that is the case…how will she go on?
I cant think anymore about this right now, I am very disturbed by the thought she might have really done it accidentaly, jesus.
I would kill myself, I couldnt live with that.I feel even worse than when I thought they killed the baby on purpose!
I live in Virginia, in (fairly) close proximity to where the baby was killed. The information I am about to give should be taken very lightly, as it is complete hearsay. But the story floating around town is as follows:
Father goes to work. Comes home to find wife hysterical, saying she can’t find the baby. The father calls the police. They come and find the (UNCOOKED) baby in the microwave. The mother had smothered it out of jealousy, beacuse the father is very doting and loves the baby so much.
Probably not the correct story, but it’s what everyone has been saying…one of those “My cousin has a friend whose mother’s uncle works at the car wash where they clean the police cruisers…” kinda tales.
daniel p bostaph wrote:
I do have to wonder how many of these stories are urban legends.
My dad taught F-102 pilots how to operate their plane’s radar, while he was in the U.S. Air Force in the 1950s. He says it was common practice at the time to stick your hand in front of the nosecone to tell if the radar was turned on – if your hand felt warm, the dish inside the fiberglass nosecone was emitting radar. He also told me a story which I’m almost sure is an urban legend, about a pilot who was in a really cold hangar one day and decided to warm himself up by standing in front of his F-102 while the radar was operating – the man was found dead, of course.
Is there anyplace where one could look up these death-by-radar stories, other than relying on a friend-of-a-friend?
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It could be a factor. I don’t know for sure. It is definitely something that needs to be looked into very, very thoroughly.
The confusion that follows the seizures I have is frightening. What’s even scarier, though, is the realization that several minutes of my life are gone, and I cannot account for them. If this terrible thing had happened to me, I think I’d be completely off the deep end, with no hope whatsoever of rescue.
Kelli - The woman does have children (I think they are around 8 and 10 years old). She lives quite normal until her meds need adjustment. She can usually tell in advance when that time comes.
She had just made her appointment to see the doctor for her meds and was due to see him the day after she was burned.
It is really hard to understand how she could have lay in the hot water long enough to get severely burned, but she doesn’t remember anything. Because the burns are only on one side of her body they think that she was in pain and was trying to get out of the tub. She must have been trying to push herself out of the tub with her left arm and that is why is was burned so badly.
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KITTEN
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I am sadly aware of the dmage burns of that type can do. My youngest was scalded when he was just 2, and will always be scarred…the treatments at the hospital…I get sick thinking about it, and I am so sorry for the bathtub burn lady.
She would have been numb in places because the burns destroyed the nerves. Those are the places which scar the worst.
She must be wearing the stretch ‘jobst’ garments, the recovery is an ordeal to be sure, I wish her well.
This story hasn’t received any press here in San Diego, surprisingly enough. Obviously, I’m horrified beyond words. If it turns out that this young woman’s epilepsy caused this horrible accident… My first thought was that I hope that her family has her on a suicide watch. My husband, on the other hand, thinks that the kindest thing her loved ones could do for her is give her a gun, a bullet and some privacy. He thinks that this is the definition of the point of no return, and he may have a point.
Jess
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Jess, your husband is absolutely right…
Its like those people who go to Kevorkian to end their suffering, this mother’s suffering will never end, and it is every bit as real.
(assuming of course it was an accident and not murder)
Say, Kelli, I have a burn scar on my right hip from when I got scalded with boiling water at age 2.
Since I don’t remember the experience … um … were you my mother at the time?
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Thankfully NO, if I had been responsible for that much pain TWICE, I would have done myself in.
You really dont remember?
I like to think Frankie wont.
Let me reiterate, I think that death is actually worse for four to seven year olds, infants are not concious in any advanced manner. I fail to see why the mechanism of death in any death is that critical.
There is no safety for honest men but by believing all possible evil of evil men.
–Edmund Burke
three,
I get your point- death is death, right? Since you’ve made that point twice and continue to ask “What’s the big deal?” Or, basically “what’s the difference if they woke up and found the baby dead in his crib or by some other means?”
The reason that people find this so awful is that IF the baby were killed by putting it in a microwave and turning it on, it would be a particularly heinous crime- something only a terribly evil or demented person would do. People are upset to be shown, so clearly, that that kind of evil exists in the world. It is not like someone becoming enraged, then shaking a baby to death. To find an infant in a microwave implies that the person responsible took the following steps, consciously and with intent to harm or kill:
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The mother has been charged with murder and is now in a psychiatric hospital. Article in today’s Washington Post - many neurological experts questioned on this issue of the epilepsy – and they were all skeptical. One expert noted: if she was so disoriented and confused that she could put her baby (instead of the bottle) in a microwave oven, she would also have been too confused to push the right buttons to turn it on.
Updated story: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ao/19990927/cr/19990927018.html
Aw, shit. Excuse me while I go break something.