Is Uzbekistan next?

It sure looks that way - if I were Islam Karimov, I’d be checking flight reservations. Not that every time the government blames Islamic extremists for something, it’s the beginning of the end, but this sure doesn’t look good, and the Ferghana Valley has been a powder keg for a long, long time. News reports vary, but most agree that government troops shot at unarmed demonstrators, and that several hundred people may be dead:

“Troops open fire on Uzbek protesters”

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/ededc984-c418-11d9-a56d-00000e2511c8.html

"Troops opened fire on thousands of demonstrators in Uzbekistan yesterday as President Islam Karimov tried to prevent an uprising in the east of the central Asian republic from escalating into a threat to his autocratic leadership.

A violent battle with security forces erupted in the town of Andizhan after armed rebels stormed the town prison overnight, freeing more than 2,000 inmates. The Uzbek press service reported nine people dead and 34 wounded - although the protest’s leaders told news agencies as many as 50 had been killed.

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Andizhan lies in the Ferghana Valley, a fertile territory stretching across Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, where disputes over frontiers and water supplies, and the spread of radical Islamist groups, have long provided the scope for conflict. The unrest comes less than two months after a revolution toppled President Askar Akayev in neighbouring Kyrgyzstan. Andizhan is not far across the border from Osh, the Kyrgyz town where protests first broke out over disputed elections in March.

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The rebels’ attack on the jail led to the escape of 23 local businessmen charged with belonging to a religious group linked to Hizb-ut-Tahrir, an extremist organisation blamed for a series of bomb attacks in Uzbekistan in 2004.

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Government troops began shooting in the late afternoon, causing protesters to flee the square. Mr Karimov has at his disposal the best trained and equipped army in central Asia. All secular opposition has been stifled during his repressive rule…"

“Thousands flee violence in Uzbekistan”

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/ededc984-c418-11d9-a56d-00000e2511c8.html

"Thousands of people fled from Uzbekistan’s eastern city of Andizhan towards neighbouring Kyrgyzstan at the weekend in the wake of an uprising on Friday that has left hundreds dead…

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In Andizhan, the army sealed off the city centre at the weekend. Queues formed outside the town morgue and people began digging graves in the city’s parks. Army trucks were reported to be removing many bodies. One human rights campaigner said as many as 500 civilians had been killed.

Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan’s president, denied that he gave the order to fire on civilians gathered in Andizhan’s town square on Friday after rebels stormed the town jail, freeing prisoners.

He blamed the bloodshed on criminals and religious extremists linked to the outlawed Hizb-ut-Tarir movement, the largest radical Islamist movement in central Asia. Mr Karimov said rebels were seeking to replicate Kyrgyzstan’s revolution, which toppled President Askar Akayev in March.

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“If Uzbekistan implodes, the burden on Kyrgyzstan may become intolerable, undermining chances of a free and democratic election this July,” said Martha Olcott, senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

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Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, said that the rebellion in Andizhan had been inspired by “extremist groups similar to Afghanistan’s Taliban”. "

More news:

“Troops and Protesters Killed in Uzbekistan Clashes”

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty coverage:

“Unrest in Uzbekistan”

http://rferl.org/specials/uzbek_unrest/

Is this likely to be a good thing in the end for Uzbekistan? Can a rebellion succeed? If it does, what is likely to replace it?

That’s the kicker, isn’t it? Islamic extremists appear to be spearheading the unrest. Have we got any U.S. bases in Uzbekistan? If so, an Islamic government almost certainly would kick them out.

Yes we have bases in Uzbekistan.
DoD Background Briefing on Uzbekistan (2004)

We’ve even found traces of WMD at the Karshi Khanabad base
Powell signed a Declaration on the Strategic Partnership and Cooperation Framework Between the United States of America and the Republic of Uzbekistan back in 2002. What with events, it might now be worth a close read.
I wouldn’t take all that talk of ‘Islamic extremists’ to seriously just yet. Economic times are hard in Uzbekistan, and the news can get seriously twisted before emerging. This could be the start of a revolution, or just a successful crackdown like the one in Kazakhstan a couple years ago.

That, and blaming “Islamic extremists” is a favorite tactic of Karimov’s for smacking down anyone who doesn’t agree with him. Much like Putin’s tactics in Chechnya.

Quite. An oppressed population, denied a legitimate political voice, can turn to other traditions for support. Catholicism in Eastern europe under the stalinist dictatorships, Islam (which was about as fundamentalist as the Church of England) in Bosnia and Chechnya etc. Islamic fundamentalism thrives on repression like mosquitoes breed in a swamp.

This man is every bit as bad as Saddam, he is a murdering, torturing, oppressive old style communist but yet again the US and the UK are there supporting him because he has something we want or we buy into self-fulfilling prophecies of worse to come.

We should not be doing anything but opposing scum like this regardless of whatever short-term strategic benefit we think it gives us. Look where that got us with OBL and Saddam.

The ex-British Ambassador to Uzbekistan was on Newsnight the other night. He said the alleged Islamic extremists businessmen that were arrested/named where no more extremists in their beliefs than the Turkish Secular government.

The extremist label is very handy nowadays. You can be on the side of the angels by pulling out the “War on Terror” card, even though you’re a repressive murdering regime.

The irony is, of course, that the more they play the Islamic Extremist card, the more likely an Islamic state will result.

They got oil? No.

They’re not next. Nor is anybody else, not with essentially all the Army’s combat capability already tied down in Iraq for the foreseeable future, and everyone knows it. Even if they were in the Axis of Evil, they still wouldn’t be next.

I frequent an Uzbeki restaurant in LA. The service is horrible but the food is good. I should go there to see if anyone feels like chatting about the situation.

They got oil, Yes.
Uzbekistan is also the eighth-largest producer of natural gas in the world, and is entangled in Caspian Sea pipline projects

By “next,” I meant next to overthrow a nasty post-Soviet dictator, not the next to be invaded by the U.S. And last I checked, neither Ukraine nor Georgia has significant amounts of petroleum or other strategically important natural resources, and Kyrgyzstan even less so.

According to the Guardian, the rebels are now in control of Korasuv, a town on the Uzbekistan-Kyrgyzstan border. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5014990,00.html

Here’s a selection of opinions on the Uzbekistan situation from various news organizations and world leaders: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10126620

Is this “march for freedom” more to do with pushing pressure on Russia rather than actual government reform for the countries involved?

Is this more to do with getting revenge for Bush sr.?