Two of the five “millionaires” (not really, after taxes)thus far know each other, and two big winners in the same week that another trivia show and a national promotion for a fast-food chain debut, is this beyond statistical probability?
Rigged, no. But the kinds of trivia geeks who are likely to do well on the show (I number myself among them!) often hang out in the same chat rooms, play the same games, join the same puzzle clubs, etc. I appeared on the show (no, I never won the fast finger round, and never got to answer any questions), and so have several other people I know (though none were close friends).
I still ge a kick out of remembering the WWTBAM contestant who, when given a list of books, was asked to choose the story (ies) based on the life of a real person and he chose … yes… Tarzan. Even my 10 year old gasped at that one.
Waitamoment… Don’t new promotions for fast-food chains debut every week? The conspiracy must be broader than we thought.
What astorian said.
I’ve scorekept for games where Dave Goodman played. And I’ve played with and against Rick Grimes and moderated, scorekept and played against Adam Fine, all of whom appeared on WWTBAM. And there are others I’ve met before they were on WWTBAM, including James Dinan (who’s a biggie on the TRASH [Testing Recall About Strange Happenings] circuit).
All of them are members of the quizbowl community. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/quizbowl is the message board. Goodman most recently, IIRC, played at a GWU academic tournament. I was with Rick Grimes for NAQT sectionals at JHU, for which Adam Fine was the Tournament Director. Dinan’s the business manager for TRASH. He also occasionally appears in the academic circuit, if memory serves.
In short: you hang around the place a while, you pick up useful knowledge, both pop culture (TRASH) and academic.
::smells this ones trip over to either MPSIMS or IMHO from a mile away::
I don’t know about the American version but I have my suspicions about the British one. Only one person has won a million and on the same night and time as the BBC showed the final ever episode of the popular comedy ‘One Foot in the Grave’. Not only that but Victor Meldrew’s (the star of the show) famous saying “I don’t believe it!” was uttered not once but twice by Chris Tarrant (the host) as she won.
Hmmmmmm.
Tarzan wasn’t a real person? Next you’ll tell me Hannibal didn’t cross the Alps on llamas.
Astorian’s right. There is a large and close community of trivia addicts who have played College Bowl and Quiz Bowl, tried out and appeared on Jeopardy and WWTBAM as well as other shows (and who are ecstatic at the number of opportunities available to us now), who hang out in trivia chat rooms (mainly on AOL), and post regularly on alt.tv.game-shows and other web sites, and read Steve Beverly’s Game Show Convention Center site every day. We appear on game shows in disproportionate numbers because we put more work than most into getting ourselves ready to do so, and because we put more work into the audition and contestant-search processes. What you see isn’t the result of luck, it’s the result of preparation and effort. If you think you’re good enough, put the same effort into it and you’ll make it on eventually, too.
As to why the UK has had only 1 top winner on WWTBAM, compared to (I think) 8 in the US, that’s the result of 2 factors:
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There have been roughly 4 times as many episodes shot in the US, even though the show hasn’t been on as long.
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Getting on the US show requires getting a lot more questions correct to even get in the pool to be selected (8 vs. 1, not counting the new audition process). That weights the contestant pool more toward us trivia addicts. In recent months, ABC has tried for more “diversity” by going to an audition process, like all other US game shows use, instead of the objective phone-in procedure I used to get on last year. Dunno how I’d do in an audition now that I’m no longer eligible, but I made it on Jeopardy that way, so who knows?
Any fans of the now_exiled program “Sliders” may remember one world they landed on where general knowledge and physical prowess sports had ousted b-ball or other pure physical sports to be the top ranked entertainment venue (Einstein was a hero bigger than Michael Jordan).
While trivia programs are not at all like that (no physical element at all) I can certainly see a logical progression with the rise in popularity of shows like “Survivor” and “Boot Camp” at the same time that shows like “Millionaire” and “Weakest Link” and others of similar nature I feel that some time within the next two years there will be a physical/intellectual gameshow format that begins to take over and we will have a new breed of celebrity come out of it. How does this relate to the OP?
Well no one would be surprised if I said the last five people to win any given boxing title knew one another, or NASCAR title, or how about the last five chess champions? Once one enters into a rarefied environment (either because one is gifted or driven) one begins to find that there are fewer and fewer people to associate with in regards to that field of profession or interest.
Take a look at the ultimate sport “Ecco Challenge” and note that while the contenders come from all over the world most of the top competetors know one another previously. Like-lifestyles attract like-persons. This is why all of my friends are callow and self absorbed with terrible hygene and even worse grammar. 
Did anyone think the show was rigged when no one won for 9 straight months? Or was the building up of tension part of the conspiracy?
There is a pattern though. Watch the questions. Notice that they don’t repeat an answer letter twice in a row; with an exception. In other words, say first answer is A, then B then D, you know that the next is gonna be C. Once four answers are given the pattern restarts, so number 5 question could be C…
Yep. Go & watch it yourself.
Please don’t misinterpret me, this has nothing to do with sour grapes, as a Canadian I’m not even eligible. I fully accept a producer’s right to choose contestants that fit a certain image, or represent a large TV market (like Chicago, heh heh), which such shows demonstrably do. As for the quality of the contestants, AWB makes my point for me. I’m just wondering about the odds of two winners out of five knowing each other personally in a population sample of some 250 million people, and the fortuitous timing of the big wins.
You might recall that the show handed out quite a few rich prizes in the early days, then I heard a news story that Lloyd’s of London had insured the show against excessive winnings, and warned the producers to increase the difficulty of the questions to decrease the amount of prizes awarded. Then there was a long period of no winners, with pretty tough questions appearing at lower levels than ever before.
So to answer your question, of COURSE the show is rigged. It’s rigged against the contestants. In deference to the show’s insurer, they increased the difficulty of questions to trip up contestants and award them less money.
Handy,
I had heard that before about the first 4 questions never repeating an answer choice. But I watched one night and it wasn’t true. The answers were in the order of A, B, D, A or something like that. There was no C.
Diver
One point that has not yet been satisfactorily answered is whether big wins coming at “convenient” times (in oppositin to rival TV shows etc) is indicative of rigging.
The show does not go out live. One possibility is that they keep a bank of big wins recorded, but hold them back until an appropriate week, when they want the ratings to be higher. That would not mean that the questions were rigged as such.
One thing I’ve noticed about the Australian version is that before someone goes 50/50, the host always asks which answers the contestant considers may be correct, and which he/she has ruled out. Which, if the show is rigged, is what one would expect the host to ask, to enable them to know which two answers to leave in or take out, to either help or hinder the contestant. I’m not saying they do or do not do this, but it creates a suspicion in my mind.
I can’t believe for the life of me that a “computer” is taking away the two wrong answers on the 50/50. Every time, the two obviously wrong answers are removed, thus providing virtually no help to the contestant.
Certainly by now in the British version it is well known that the 50:50 is preprogrammed, just like in the WWTBAM quiz books. The contestants know that when it’s obviously between two answers the 50:50 is pretty useless. It’s mostly used for narrowing down when you haven’t got a clue.
The real “population sample” the contestant pool is drawn from is much smaller, as a number of posts have pointed out.
Opus1, the 50/50 choices are selected when the question is written, to leave the most plausible wrong answer. It’s really only helpful if one of the remaining answers looks strange - that means it’s probably right.
Princhester, pisodes are sequential (in the US version, anyway), as shown by the returning contestant on almost every show. Winners can’t be “banked”. The Oz host sounds like he’s trying to help, in the way Regis Philbin does and Chris Tarrant does not. Oh, and is Gordon Elliott a better host than he showed in his brief stint here in “Chance of a Lifetime”?
Handy, the answers as they appear on the screen are in random order.
ChasE, the insurer wasn’t Lloyd’s, but the rest of your post is right. The insurer pays only for prizes above $250K, while ABC pays the rest themselves. That made sense for the original UK version, where the prize pool came from the toll calls aspiring contestants made, and in the early days of the US show, which had a similar arrangement until it became clear that advertising could pay the whole bill.
Eunoia, hang in there, the CTV version is going to be a regular show, not just the single week’s worth shot last year. Keep checking http://www.ctv.ca for details.
The 50-50 option CAN be the most useful lifeline, since it’s the ONLY one that’s guaranteed to make your choice easier. The audience or your phone-a-friend can be totally wrong, but the 50-50 option will NEVER mislead you.
Now, let’s say the question is “Who was the first President to live in the White House?” The choices are A) Washington B) Adams C) Jefferson D) Lincoln.
The contestant says out loud “Well, I KNOW it wasn’t Lincoln, and I seem to recall that Philadelphia was the capital when Washington was President… so it’s definitely either B or C. Well, let me use the 50-50.”
ZAP! The choices remaining are Adams and Jefferson! (Always seems to happen, doesn’t it?) So, viewers wonder, is the guy at the control panel a sadist? Did he just leave those two answers because he’d heard the guy say those were the answers he’d narrowed it down to?
The answer is no: the staff that writes the questions determined LONG before the game was taped what the two choices would be if the contestant asked for a 50-50. When the questions were entered into the computer, “Adams” and “Jefferson” were flagged as the choices, if the 50-50 was called for.
Now, during the early stages, the 50-50 will almost always leave you with the right answer and a ridiculous answer, so you’ll undoubtedly get it right. But for the high dollar questions, the two choices will usually be the two best answers (they don’t want to make it TOO easy for you).
So, the 50-50 is really most valuable when you have no idea, or when you’ve eliminated one answer.
Suppose the question is “Who was Pip’s benefactor in “Great Expectations” A) Uriah Heep B) Magwitch C) Murdstone D) Fezziwig.”
Well, you’ve never read much Dickens, but you’ve seen Mr. Magoo’s Christmas Carol so many times, you KNOW it isn’t Old Fezziwig! If you ask for the 50-50, you can HOPE the choices are Magwitch and Fezziwig, at which point you’ll KNOW the answer is Magwitch.