Isn't Islam a wonderful religion?

You mean, as mentioned upthread:

Advice - when you realize you’ve overreacted - don’t dig, don’t try to explain it away, apologize, correct, and then move on. It’s so much easier!

I’ll add that I share a major disagree of distrust with most rigid, theocratically controlling religions, but I don’t lump all of them together.

If you had not insulted a billion people for something they had nothing to do with, I wouldn’t have cared much. Which sounds terrible, but there are horrific people all around the world doing horrific things right now.

I don’t care much about Laken Riley, even though what happened to her was terrible. I do care when shitty people use her awful fate to disparage immigrants.

This is basically the same thing. You’re Laken Rileying this poor couple, and should knock it the fuck off.

To it, instead of you.

I agree with all of this, but I think you probably should have written the thread title and then let it simmer in your brain for an hour or two before hitting “reply”. It really does come across as bigoted towards one one particular faith, rather than a general screed about religion in general.

I am just going to paraphrase Douglas Adams’ quote about religion.

There are some things you are not allowed to say anything bad about: like religion . Why not? Well you just can’t: it’s not allowed.

That has fuck all to do with what I said.

Its because criticizing Islam is seen as punching down, or trying to justify a social hierarchy that says white christians deserve better treatment than brown muslims.

Having said that, there are something like 190 countries on earth. According to freedom house, about 50 are muslim majority and the other 140 are not muslim majority.

There are about 90 liberal democracies on earth, and 0/50 are muslim majority. There are no liberal democracies anywhere on earth with a muslim majority. Edit: Looking into it, senegal may have scored 69/100 which just shifted it from partly free to free. So maybe 1/50.

Even if you look at Africa, the non-muslim nations have more human rights than the muslim majority nations.

People get upset when you talk about it though because they feel you are trying to justify persecution of people who are non-white, non-western and non-christian and promote western christian fascism.

FWIW, supposedly secularism is growing in the Islamic world. Which is good. Religion attracts a lot of evil people looking to justify their cruelty.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/new-secularism-appearing-islam

Are you even reading the replies to you? ChatGPT could form more pertinent responses, and I fucking hate ChatGPT.

Total bullshit: you can rant all you want about religion in general on this board, but don’t take the atrocities of a tiny radical minority to shit all over a general religion with about 2 billion followers. That’s disgusting, I have friends and neighbors of that religion, and they would be horrified about the things you posted in the OP just as well. It seems you are very ignorant about people, religion and the world as such.

That’s not why I’m annoyed. If you want to know why I’m annoyed, read the posts where I say why I’m annoyed instead of making wild guesses that confirm your priors.

To be clear I do not like the idea of ANY theocracy. Islam is just one example.

Quoted without further comment,.

Supposedly there are 54 nations in Africa. 19 muslim majority, 35 non-muslim majority

muslim majority:
Free: 1 / 19
Partly Free: 7 / 19
Not Free: 11 / 19

non-muslim majority:
Free: 9/35
Partly Free: 10/35
Not Free: 16/35

What does “free” even mean in this context? Is the USA still a “free” country at the moment?

Deciding to repost something is usually a comment in and of itself.

Yes, but currently I live in a Red state in the US so I have to keep dreaming…

Indeed, I was about to ask the same thing: how does one quantify it? It’s a rather subjective judgement…?

And yet you toss around these numbers without evaluating them. That’s not how it works here,

Doubtful merits of your argument aside, you are certainly allowed to fellate a weed whacker, and I would encourage you to do so at the earliest opportunity.

Wasn’t me, sir. I was just quoting, Let’s ask Wesley_Clarke where he got them from.

Not being adversarial, just curious.

Ok, granted, it was not you, but @Wesley_Clark . Sorry.