It’s Silence of the Lambs, the Musical! Or, can I legally create a stage adaption of a book?

Recently a local community theater announced that they were going to put on a production of It’s a Wonderful Life as a musical. Local folks auditioned, and the there will be 6 or 8 performances through December. Last year they did A Charlie Brown Christmas, which was wildly popular.

However, I got to wondering: is such an adaptation legal? I assume the original movie (and the book it’s based on) is not in the public domain, but I have a hard time believing that a two-bit community theater in a two-bit town bought the rights to stage a performance. For Charlie Brown, I assume they didn’t pay for the rights either.

So what would happen if I wanted to adapt another popular story and actually stage a performance? If I really did want to do a musical of Silence of the Lambs, what’s stopping me? What if I had Buffalo Bill sing some popular song very much not in the public domain like A Natural Woman? Would that be legal?

As I’m writing this I wonder if the organization putting on the performance makes a difference. For instance, if it’s a high school play perhaps there’s more leeway?

Silence of the Lambs, the Musical! Does sound really cool though.

How about Dune … The Musical!

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=167075&highlight=Dune+Musical

Why do you assume that? Looking at this page, there are apparently quite a few two-bit community theater (and school and church) groups staging the musical.

It’s a Wonderful Life is probably not the best example, because it actually was in the public domain for a time, due to a stupid screw-up.

And actually, there was a stage musical version of Silence of the Lambs.

It’s been done. And it *was *pretty cool. I saw it twice Off-Broadway in New York City.

It’s quite normal for community theater groups to buy the performing rights for works in order to show them. I assure you that your group did pay for the right to show Charlie Brown.

The fee for rights is usually on a sliding scale, so a tiny community theater usually doesn’t pay much, unless it’s a current show.

Ha, just yesterday I recalled a scene in “The Producers” where they’re looking for ideas for The Worst Play In The World, and discard Kafka’s “Metamorphosis” on the grounds that it was “too good”. What a great idea for a Broadway musical! And you probably wouldn’t have to pay the Kafka estate for the rights.

Naturally, someone already thought of turning it into a musical, though my impression is it probably lacks the major song-and-dance (song-and-crawl?) numbers the story demands. Too bad Bob Fosse didn’t do an adaptation.

Ten years of community theater experience, here.

Of course they paid for the rights to put on these shows. That’s how community theaters operate. Nobody but the rawest of beginners would try to stage a show without securing the rights. You might fly under the radar once or twice, but eventually you would get caught at it, and rights owners do not have sense of humor about those sort of violations.

It’s not possible to say exactly what the royalties to a particular show are, since it depends on a lot of variables. These include the size of your theater, how many performances you’re going to do, whether any of the proceeds will go to charity, whether you’re paying any of your actors, stuff like that. But for a small theater, with presumably a limited number of seats and maybe a single weekend of performances, royalties might not be all that high, unless they’re trying to do Rent or something!

Community theaters will work out a budget for their season, figuring out how much each show will cost to put on (which includes both royalties and expenses for things like sets and costumes), how many ticket sales they expect to generate, how much they can make by selling popcorn and sodas and stuff, and then at the end of the day, hopefully they show a profit from that. It can be a delicate balancing act sometimes. Do we do an additional weekend of performances? That might bring in more money from ticket sales–but it will also add to the cost of the royalties. Where is the break-even point?

If the theater has been around for a few years, they (hopefully) have money left over at the end of every season, which they will have in a bank account somewhere, earning interest. When next season comes along, they can use that money to start paying for rights to their next batch of shows. That money will also go toward things like keeping the theater lit and heated, upkeep on the building, and so forth.

In addition to money generated from ticket sales, community theaters often also get money from donations (look on your local theater’s website, if they have one–I’ll bet you can find a link you could use to donate money to them!). Look through the program when you go to a show, and you will likely see advertisements from local businesses. All of those bring in funds. Sometimes a business will donate so much money that they will be identified as a sponsor of a particular show, or even the whole season. Businesses do this either for the advertising benefits, or the prestige of being associated with local theater, or sometimes just because their owner has an interest in the arts and wants to support them.

As to the actual question, could you just adapt Silence of the Lambs into a musical, the answer is usually no. That would be a derivative work, and the creation of these is generally controlled by the copyright holder. Silence! likely gets away with it because it’s a parody.

N.B., this is not legal advice. I am not your lawyer–indeed, I am not anyone’s lawyer, as I do not have a law degree. I have, however, appeared in a community theater production of Legally Blonde. :slight_smile:

Silence of the Lambs, The Musical! was a throwaway joke line from an old Christopher Lloyd movie I watched as a kid. Obviously I should’ve Googled to see if anyone has actually done such a thing. Now I want to see it.

Thanks for this, and to everyone else who replied.

Obviously I have no idea what the operating budget of this theater is. The building itself is small and the theater maxes at 100 people. I guess I figured the shows somehow got either the rights for free or, due to its small size, there was some legal loophole that allowed them to put on these productions for free. I’ve always thought it would be neat to help organize (write or direct) a play, but most of my ideas come from books I’ve read over the years.

For a theater of the size you’re talking about, I imagine the royalties are not very much. If they have a limited budget, I suspect that they may also confine themselves to plays that are relatively inexpensive. I notice that It’s a Wonderful Life is licensed through Playscripts (assuming it’s the same adaptation). Most of the material that Playscripts handles is not especially well-known, and therefore not especially expensive.

Very few plays (apart from things like Shakespeare or the ancient Greeks) can be performed with no royalty at all, though there are a few out there. But it is possible to do shows on a fairly limited budget, providing you don’t get too ambitious with what you attempt. You’ll probably never see them doing any of the big Disney musicals, or bringing Cats to your local area. But if they’re keeping their eyes on their budget, they can probably still manage some entertaining shows that folks will enjoy coming to see.

If you really do want to get involved in theater production, you might talk to someone at the theater about volunteering. If they’re like any other community theater that I’ve ever known, they’re always looking for volunteers!

Maybe you can adapt The Elephant Man. There actually was a movie and a play based on the same source material; as long as you’re dramatizing the story and not taking elements from either, you’re in the clear.

Or make it into a musical!

Professional theatre-industry guy here. As has been said already, there is a musical version of Wonderful Life, so presumably that’s the version they’re doing and presumably they paid for the rights. And yes, there already was a musical version of Lambs, but as I recall, it was promoted as an “unauthorized parody” of the movie. Parody is pretty much free game, but if they had tried to do a serious adaptation of the movie or book without permission, you can bet it would have been shut down.

I used to work at Samuel French, the licensing house that gives theatres permission to do plays and musicals. I worked in the play department so I don’t know how much royalties for musicals are, but just for point of reference if a community theatre wanted to do a play, it would probably be in the $40-$55 per performance range. So if they’re charging $10-$20 a ticket they could make that back pretty quickly. Especially if they’re also selling baked goods at intermission. :slight_smile: