The other day I was reading about a 30 yo man being taken to the supreme court by his parents to have him evicted from their home (recent developments on this matter [here](1517 Chelsea Ave) )
This shouldn’t be legal. The way I see things, if you create a being, if you bring a person into this world, then you are responsible for that person’s well-being for life, not just up until some arbitrary age ie ‘18.’ A person should be able to live with their parents for as long as they wish, without paying a single dime towards room and board, or without even having to express a single shred of gratitude. Parents owe this, and more, to their offspring.
The only possible exception I would make for parents evicting their offspring from their home is if the offspring were psychotically violent.
If I ever became a father (that’ll never happen), I would allow my child to live with me for as long as they wished, and only let them leave if they were absolutely sure that’s what they wanted. Any parent worth their salt would the same, imo.
I may not be worth my salt (but then again I’m not roman), but I think that, legally speaking, once a person becomes a legal adult they are legally an individual entity with their own rights and responsibilities. If I were legally mandated to maintain legal custody over an individual unto perpetuity, then I would also expected to maintain legal control over them unto perpetuity, enforcing my own rules which they would be obligated by the state to obey.
In other words, they’re my slaves.
On the other hand, if I am required to house them, but do not maintain control over them, then I am being required by the state to carry out this job without pay or chance of escape.
In other words, I’m their slave.
There might be problems with enacting such a law, at least at the federal level.
No, that is just crazy talk. Good parents usually help their kids even into early adulthood but they shouldn’t have to. Most 18 year olds can get a job and a really crappy apartment if they need to just fine or they can join the military or lots of other things. You really want to give someone free room and board for life? What else is on the list? A car, clothes and an entertainment budget? That is how you get really dysfunctional adolescents that just happen to also be over 18 or 21. Room and board is a privilege once you are an adult and being able to take that away is one tool parents can use if their adult child is making the wrong choices in life.
You last paragraph is ass backwards as well. Someone that has a true mental illness may be one of the ones that needs that type of care the most and the parents may be the only ones that can do it. You can’t just slap someone in a psychiatric facility for life very easily.
It varies on a case by case basis but the parents should not be required to give adult kids anything unless you also propose to strip away the rest of the child’s rights. That is how you end up with basement dwellers that are 35 years old and have never even had a job or been on a date. I already told mine that, not because I don’t love them, but because I do and they are going to have to survive on their own.
In many cases, my step-son’s included, the best thing in the world for his own future potential was to kick him into the street on his own at 18. If we hadn’t, he’d still be lurking in the basement playing video games instead of being a semi-productive member of society.
Why just up until early adulthood? If you are a parent, you have created a being, a being who never asked to be born I might add, who never asked to be brought into this world.
And they absolutely shouldn’t have to if they don’t want to.
Yes. You brought this person into this world, without their consent. Now you care for them, and provide for them for as long as they wish.
The children should not have their rights stripped. Parents owe their children everything. But children don’t owe their parents anything.
I am of the opinion that it’s not good for a human being to go through their lives never learning to be self-sufficient. Letting freeloading brats stay forever is bad for them. I don’t think the state should legally require bad child-rearing.
Plus, if the state wants children to be considered children forever, they shouldn’t give them adult rights. Are you okay with children having no adult rights whatsoever for as long as they remain in their parents’ homes?
I don’t see how making people take responsibility for what they’ve done is ‘slavery.’ And yes, people would probably think damn long and hard before bringing a person into this world if they knew they’d have to care of that person for the rest of their lives.
You seem really focused on the “consent” part of this, which strikes me as a sort of silly place to focus, since of course people who don’t yet exist can’t consent to anything. But that’s ok! For one, it’s not as though existence is a horrid prison. It’s kinda fun most of the time. And for another, anyone who doesn’t want to continue on with it is perfectly capable of taking their leave of the rest of us.
But, let’s say I agree with you, that I am obligated to provide for my children for as long as they wish. There’s a pretty major problem looming. I’m likely to predecease my children by at least a few decades. What happens to my 50ish year old child who’s never stood on his own two feet when I die? Almost certain misery and ruin.
Most charitably, I would call your claim short-sighted.
I would counter with the argument that I am obligated to do what is in my children’s best interest at every age. Which, for the vast majority of children, involves kicking them out on their ass whether they like it or not once they get to the point that they need to support themselves. Because while I happily change diapers, I ain’t gonna be around to wipe their asses forever.
I more got the impression that the kids would never reproduce, on account of being basement-dwelling man-children.
ETA: Ooh - and if the child somehow does managed to reproduce, can the adults in the house throw the grandchild out? It’s not like they consented to it! (And if they can, can they throw it out immediately? It’s their loser kid’s responsibility to keep the baby alive, not theirs, after all…)
On one hand this is crazy talk. On the other hand there are several states that make people’s adult children legally responsible for the cost of their care and that’s even crazier - talk about a completely unasked for and unfair burden.