No doubt because it’s not being carried in almost every store that sells PC games, like GTA:SA is.
Because most of the outrage burnt out in 2002, when it was “released.”
I’d also imagine that actually having heard of it helps. I can’t remember if I’ve have heard of it before, and I know more about games then most people I know.
Spoken like a true child.
And that, my friend, was spoken like someone who holds children in such disdain that he has no business being around them.
I disagree. Well, obviously I do since the original post was mine.
Parents have a habit of being overprotective of their children, especially when it comes to sex.
I don’t advocate sexual activity in kids and teens, but exposure to sexual ideas is a good thing. Kids need information, lots and lots of it.
Rockstar, however is really just composed of total dirtwads. Their games aren’t just violent, they’re also plain mean. Some of it sickeningly so.
Uh huh. Just like those dirtwads who made Scarface, The Godfather, and The Sopranos.
How so, in comparison to other video games?
Rockstar Games are indeed more sadistic than most other games. In Manhunt, IIRC, you get extra points for killing more sadistically or brutally. Also, you can saw off your victim’s head, to throw and cause noise to distract other foes.
But those aren’t requirements. If you don’t like doing it, you don’t have to. (And of course, the reason why you might be rewarded for more graphic kills is a key part of the game’s plot.)
Required or not, I think my point still stands that it’s somewhat sadistic to give the player the option and encourage him with extra points.
Not that I have any problem with sadism in the games I play.
I thought of this thread when I saw this. Enjoy.
A worthy editorial I read today.
It does make sense if you’re laying the groundwork for a Presidential bid and you want to innoculate yourself against charges of being non-Family-Values enough.
All I have to say is that this is the most rediculous thing I’ve ever heard of.
Let’s back up a little to before the whole sex “scandal” happened and before GTA San Andreas was released. GTA 3 was, like its predecessors, attacked for its content (didn’t help that the graphics were quality 3D at the time, unlike GTA 1 and 2 which were in 2D and required a little imagination). Anyway, since the release of GTA, it has become the center of a political storm over the content of videogames and the “degrading effect” it has on our society :rolleyes: .
[begining ranting]
Even I understand that a politician’s first priority is to do what they can to be elected. It’s only natural for Hillary to attack GTA for the evils that it may or may not contain. What is the average gamer going to do about it? The ones that can vote do not have enough voting power to change a presidential election . I’m not saying that she is definitely running, but she’s popular enough in NY to be re-elected as a senator and such attacks are never done in politics without it being politically expedient. It just isn’t playing the game wisely to do otherwise. Besides, Hillary has been known to forgive and forget things that most people would divorce over*.
Back to the original topic:
From what I have read (mostly on slashdot, which seems to be following almost everything), the “Hot Coffee” mod is basically a patch that unlocks the sex game. However, that does not necesarilly mean that Rockstar purposely left it in for the purpose of being found, since unnecessary code is left in all the time (Think debug rooms and other things unlockable with a cheating device like gameshark on a console). Something in the code may be important for another part of the game, plus the fact that many lines of code would need to be searched through in order to completely remove the locked content without creating bugs**. I believe it would have been wise to remove it (and possibly cause a delay), but someone decided against it. Rockstar may have made a mistake in not deleting it, but as any gamer should be able to tell you the EULA*** that you must agree with in able to install the game forbids modifications, which voids the responsibility of Rockstar for the mod. I believe that it has similar text in the PS2 and XBox manuals***, but I don’t have them so I cannot say for sure. I’m also not sure whether or not that legally protects Rockstar.
Return to rantings:
Either way, Hillary benefits by either crushing Rockstar or having to let them off on “a technicality” followed by a stern statement, which will most likely simplify the whole issue into something like “I’ve tried hard to protect your little innocent children but Rockstar is evil and it’s layers twisted the law to protect themselves from my wrath. What has Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney/Some Other Republican done for you? I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve of this message.” It’s been done before and it will, more likely than not, be done again. Hillary cannot afford not to scrounge for support.
*Yeah, I’m sorry.
**Can’t give a definate number, but it’s not like they only have to look through 1000 lines.
***I can’t get a direct link or a quote, since google is filled with people saying, “According to the EULA, I assume…” So a major point of mine is “common knowledge” instead of an actual fact (many people think it’s true it so it must be true :o).
Indeed. I’ve heard that Sonic 2 for the Genesis has hidden levels that were disabled before the game shipped, and you can access them with a Game Genie. Giving GTA:SA an “adults only” rating because of Hot Coffee is like giving Sonic 2 a bad review because the hidden levels are buggy or boring. The game you’re buying is a carefully crafted experience, and if you go out of your way to change it by hacking the game, you have no right to complain that your changes made it worse; if you want the game to live up to its marketing or its ESRB rating, then just play it like a normal person.
An EULA for a console game is powerless. The license agreement is only important for PC software because you need to make a copy in order to use it, and the copyright holder gets to set the terms for giving you permission to copy the game. Not so with a console game, which runs off the disc.