Also featuring the hit single . . . (and I’m sorry to do this): “Who let the dogs out, who? who? Who let the dogs out?”
You make a good point.
Another point: I went checking dachshunds, and the coat type/size made a huge difference in the score weirdly enough. The worst dachshund was the standard size with smooth coat (68.8). The best (at 90.3) was the miniature long-haired. My miniature (technically, a tweenie) smooth coats were in the middle at 81.6).
Anecdotally, I’ve found the few standards I’ve met to be more mellow, although a little more standoffish, than the smaller ones.
As I said, weird.
Studies like that are helpful when confronting breed bans, absolutely. They don’t, however, contradict the idea that some people, especially dogfighters, breed for a specific type of vicious behavior (“game”), nor that some of those fuckers aren’t good at breeding for a specific type of viciousness and instead breed (and rear) for generalized viciousness.
Once more for the fucking necessity of it all There is this thing called media bias, its real, and you are propagating bullshit like a bitch.
In heat. 
god damnit this board needs a thumbs up feature, I really should have seen that myself
It’s always reported as a “Pit Bull”.
There are, though, an awful lot of them around. I don’t get it; they aren’t attractive dogs (to my eye), they have a terrible reputation WRT safety, so why are they so popular to non-thugs?
There are many who have a different opinion as to what is an “attractive” dog, and know that their “reputation” is pure bs.
Combine that with the fact the you are likely mistaking “dogs that can be mistaken for pits” for pits, which ups the number that you think you see.
no one, well trained or not, should own an animal capable of killing a human being. It is just stupid to do so. I’ve seen the best of dogs ‘accidentally’ cause injury to a kid. any owner whose dog causes injury to me or mine is in for an intense amount of negative attention from me. Pit bull dogs are killing people at a rate far higher than their percentage in the dog population. Why in God’s name do we need that kind of grief among us? Neuter them all.
So, no horses, pigs, cows, large animals of any kind then? :dubious:
What gets me is - if you talk to the owners of most other breeds (a husky or whatever) - they’ll usually say something along the lines of: yeah, those suckers can be dangerous, they’re not for everyone, they’re great dogs but you’ve got to know how to handle them…
On the contrary, pit bull owners talk about them like cult idols and always sound like they’re protesting too much - they’re such sweet kind loving dogs! Cherubs and rainbows appear when they enter a room! They heal the sick with their wonderful kisses and can deliver babies! Jesus and Gandhi would have owned one! Any stories you may hear are dirty lies and it was probably really a daschund anyway!
…Because the owners actually own them and know how their dogs behave? Yeah, I’d expect someone familiar with a dog to know more about it than someone who has never owned one.
I don’t think dogs who kill people should be automatically euthanized. I think they should be studied by neuroscientists…put some probes into their brains and find out if they are actually any different than dogs who don’t attack, of the same general ‘breed’. Find a way to identify dangerous dogs and then just put them to sleep, or neuter them, at the very least.
I never once, in my farmboy life, brought any of those into my house. They were in an area where people didn’t go unless they knew what they were doing, and that they were taking a small amount of risk to be there.
got any stix to throw at me about how many cows, pigs and horses burst out of their barn stalls to attack farmers last year? How many of them killed smaller animals of the same species? How many of them were turned over to SPCA for being too hard to handle, too dangerous to have around the kids?
Hey, you’re the one that made the unqualified statement.
As for my two cents: I once went flipping through a dog magazine and found a page devoted to ads for pit bull breeders. Practically every ad was accompanied by pictures of chains, axes, spikes, and other nonsense. It was clear that their target demographic was people who wanted and expected a violent dog.
It is said that people who fear pit bulls are born that way. Their brains are such that emotions (fear, hatred, etc) and simple solutions appeal to them.
Cite please.
I’m just snarking on crucible who finds such statements perfectly okay when he or she says them.
I gave a cite for the liberal vs conservative brains. such statements I make about not wanting animals around capable of killing people are my opinion and don’t require any citations (of course, if you quote me, please do it properly)
We’ve all of us seen the statistics about pit bull dangers. Whether or not you choose to believe the stix, or whether or not you choose to try to find reasons not to believe their methodology depends entirely, I am sure, on whether you think pit bulls should be eliminated. I happen to think the studies showing how dangerous pit bulls are, or have become, are completely accurate and that we should take action to eliminate that threat to us and our kids.
Confirmation bias will always be with us. In this case, I think the studies confirm my life experiences.