I’m not saying I NEED the Wii’s help to get laid while playing video games with my wife (had a few memorable occasions involving FFXI, both computers on the same desk, and having sex while we were both in the same raid and no one noticed) but it certainly helps. ;)
She’s the kind of person who will pick up a controller and try to play. With the Wii’s current games, that mostly works pretty well. Not so much with, say, Rainbow 6 Vegas on the 360.
I’ve never understood this debate. I’m a platform agnostic gamer, owning a PC, a Wii, and a X360, and they all get varying amounts of use depending on which game is “hot” at that point. I wouldn’t say any is a clearly superior platform except for my biases (PC is superior for my mouse-addled self for FPSes, I will almost always take the “controller” rather than “motion sensor” option for Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart Wii, I tend to only get Wii exclusives on the Wii because yes, its graphics aren’t quite as great–Force Unleashed and Godfather Blackhand Edition were the massive exceptions because the motion controls KICKED ASS there.).
Eesh. I got Force Unleashed for the Wii first, but felt a bit sour about taking a hit on the graphics and missing out on the Euphoria physics.
Had such a good time with it that some time after I played through it, I grabbed the PC version too, thinking that it’d be nice to play with all the tech turned up to 11. I didn’t get very far on the PC; because my tits were bored straight off after three levels.
Ghostbusters is another game that is much more fun on the Wii than on the PC.
Moderators, probably. Think of them as being like impartial referees, looking for cheaters, idiots, and people “not in the spirit of the game”.
And I’d argue the opposite. Or, if you’re going to have an online component of a game, charge $100 for that game, and NOT have moderators etc ensuring a quality environment for everyone, don’t make online a major feature- make it a secondary one and focus on the single-player story instead.
As I’ve said several times, I don’t game on Xbox Live so I’m not commenting on it. And nearly every game of CounterStrike or Battlefield:Whatever that I’ve played has been unmoderated, or “auto-moderated” (ie, there’s no person there).
There are lots of “public” servers and only a small handful of moderators, IME.
Give Live a shot if you come across it. There aren’t servers as you know them. There are matchmaking hoppers to get into. How it gets broken up is dependent on the game. Some games use the TrueSkill ranking system to put you in with someone of equivalent rank to you (although there are some ways to game the system because of inherent flaws in the algorithm, however it works very well).
You could do this for games you start, you know. Every game I’ve played offers the ‘host’ or ‘leader’ or whoever sets the game parameters to boot people for whatever reason they want.
How about you just buy single player titles and vote with your dollars, and don’t punish the rest of us?
I’ve been talking about PC online gaming this entire time, in response to a post (by someone who has evidently, and possibly wisely, decided it’s not worth the hassle of having an incorrect opinion on the SDMB), agreeing with them that there are serious flaws with it and that, in general, “online gaming” is not the be-all and end-all of the gaming experience that games companies make it out to be.
There are serious flaws in it for you. This is like saying there are serious flaws in the highway system because you don’t like to drive. It’s valid from a certain perspective, but not generally applicable.
I don’t think anyone here is touting online gaming as an end-all, be-all, but rather, as a significant component of their enjoyment. Obviously, if online gaming were the end-all, be-all, I would have made a fortune with MMOTicTacToe by now.
Though I’m still a little vague on why we’re discussing PC gaming in a thread about being dissatisfied with the Wii…
I’m a “core gamer.” I had an Atari 2600 when it was the most advanced system. I like my Wii and I have absolutely no desire to own a PS3 or 360. None. I had an Xbox 1 and liked it, but I like (and use) my Wii more.
HD has got to be one of the biggest marketing ploys in the history of . . . marketing ploys. If your game, or movie, or tv show sucks, who the fuck cares what it looks like? I’d rather watch something interesting filmed on a My First Barbie Dreamcam than about 99% of the shit that’s being shoveled out on HD now and capturing the attention of mouthbreathers everywhere. That goes for games, too. I don’t care how double-turbo blown-out supercharged buttfucked, nitro-blasted, bored-out triple-octane-fueled the other systems are— none of them have a game as fun as Mario Galaxy.
Add “PC” to the “approved gaming systems” list and I’d say that (despite your sarcasm) it’s more or less accurate.
Claiming to be a “core gamer” when you only play the Wii is like claiming to be a hardcore petrolhead when you drive a factory-spec 1998 Hyundai Excel that you got from your older sister. Sure, you can follow Bathurst and the V8s and watch Top Gear religiously but you’re not hardcore and it’s silly to claim otherwise.
It takes balls to post a fallacy after that fallacy has already been pointed out. You can’t both say “Hard core gamers don’t play the Wii,” and “If you play the Wii, you aren’t a hard core gamer.”
But I’m gonna throw you bone: maybe you’re saying that, if you only play on one console, then you don’t qualify as a core gamer. That I could get behind, as long as those people who just have an Xbox 360 don’t get to consider themselves core gamers, either.
Or, you could, you know, look for criteria other than what or how many consoles you own.
Possessing just an Xbox 360 isn’t much of a setback, since you can still play many of the same games that come out for PS3 and PC. Mass Effect, Fallout 3, Assassins Creed 2, Half-Life 2, Supreme Commander, and so on. How often are Wii games available for other systems, and how often are games for the other systems available for the Wii?
Sure we can. In fact, I believe that’s pretty much exactly what we did say.
OK, how about “Owning a console that’s not primarily designed for families and/or your wife/girlfriend?”
Let’s be honest here: Wii Fit is not a hardcore game by any stretch of the imagination, and it’s one of the major selling points of the Wii- “Buy a Wii! Keep Fit! Compare fitness scores with your friends!” Most of the other games are of the Wii Sports/Resort or “Fun Party Game Like Mario Kart” variety. That doesn’t make them “bad” or “not fun”, but they’re not hardcore. Much like the wannabe petrolhead in a Hyundai Excel.
To take a slightly different tack: In Cinema, there are certain films that are regarded as “Classics” or “Must-See”. Things like Citizen Kane or The Godfather or Star Wars. You can’t call yourself a Cinephile if you’ve never seen those “Key” films.
The same is true of gaming. There are “Classic” games that everyone who calls themself a Gamer is expected to have played- Super Mario Bros./Sonic The Hedgehog, Halo, Oblivion/Fallout 3… you get the idea.
Unfortunately, those games aren’t coming out on the Wii. Therefore, people who are solely Wii gamers are missing out on experiencing those “classic” or “defining” games and are therefore not part of the “Hardcore” gamer genre for exactly the same reason that the guy who watches Top Gear but doesn’t own a tricked out car or a V6/V8 (or otherwise be involved in the automotive scene in some way) isn’t a hardcore petrolhead and the bloke who “likes movies” but hasn’t seen Star Wars isn’t a hardcore Cinephile. That’s just how it is.
