You are not correct about the nature of the polls cited thus far in the thread.
This is a whoosh right? Who’s likely to be up answering the polls? How about…people who just watched the debates.
Yes, ignore the internet based polls. Those aren’t the ones we’re talking about.
Are you writing a sequel to The Court Jester or something? 
(from like 1:20 on)
You and your damned reality-based community! shakes fist
So tell us why we’re wrong, please.
Mr. Obama didn’t merely “win”, he also looked and sounded better. More mature, calmer, more rational.
Mr. McCain is not an attractive person, he grimaces and puffs and smirks and wriggles. No doubt that wouldn’t be important in a president.
But it’s sure as hell important in a TV debate.
I’m a little disappointed with the coverage… I watched on CNN’s site this time, because I wanted to see the squiggly lines everyone’s been talking about, but apparently, they didn’t show them on their Web feed. Most of the time, they also had the camera only on the one speaking, so you couldn’t see the other guy’s reactions. And the moderation was great: He kept them on topic and on schedule, and asked some questions I really wanted to see asked.
On the debate itself, I think the defining moment was where McCain said that he was proud of all of the people at his rallies, each and every one of them. Including, apparently, the ones shouting “Kill him!”. He also had a very difficult time seeing the difference between attacks on policies and personal attacks. He wouldn’t last a minute in GD.
Credit where it’s due, though, McCain did have a good line about how if Obama wanted to run against Bush, he should have done so four years ago.
The CNN and CBS polls are not internet polls. Resume your denial.
I remember the first time I heard that line from McCain, demanding to know how much the fine was going to be. I thought it was a very strange approach. Emphasize the existence of the fine, sure, but ask for an exact amount? Why? I couldn’t understand what McCain thought to gain by asking that question.
-FrL-
I don’t think anybody has quoted internet polls.
The CBS News poll is based on their “survey of 638 uncommitted voters.”
The CNN poll was “conducted by telephone with 620 adult Americans who watched the debate.”
Don’t know much about the MediaCurves poll, but sample size is listed as 1402, so there’s no way that’s an online web poll.
The polls I have quoted are not internet polls open to freeping. The three polls I have quoted are real polls done by real pollsters using real polling practices.
Do not correct me when you do not know what the hell you’re talking about.
And if you watch the clip, you can see Barack smiling away. It’s like someone seeing through your Chess opening and your attack plans.
“If you wanted to run against Bush, you should have done so and lost, just like I did.”
Politico/Insider Advantage gave the night to Obama but by a considerably thinner margin than the other polls: 49-46.
That’s only 5% “undecided”, versus 20%+ in the other polls. I’m guessing they press harder for an answer.
Yeah, I’m not sure that pushing on debates is a good idea, since I think debates are often draws.
From here. There’s additional info about the demographics.
Internet polls? Perhaps you could find a job as a fact checker for the McCain team!
You mean this one?
Warning–watching this for too long can make you lose brain cells, plan accordingly!
Fox’s current headline is McCain Goes All In. (Do they even pretend to be FAIR AND BALANCED anymore? I’ve no problem with them being partisan, it’s the pretense they’re not that makes me hate them.)
Is that supposed to be complimentary? I thought the correct expression for a fervent effort was “going all out”.
“All in” is what you are when you’re beat down and tired, isn’t it? As in, “Man, this has been a tough day—I’m all in”: