Huh?
It’s generally not disputed that part of the reason that the Shah officially announced in 1935 that his country should only be known as Iran(Land of the Aryans) instead of Persia, in part to ally himself with Hitler against the British who would eventually depose him.
In fairness, this was not out of anti-Semitism, I think the name change was good thing, and the Pahlavis have no connection to the Islamic Revolutionary government.
Yeah, right.
Iran.
Aryan.
“Persia” as said was a Greek term. And on top of that, the Shah is the guy whom the Iranians overthrew.
If its not generally disputed, I’d think it would be easy to find a cite.
No its not. Its a net exporter of oil. Its a net importer of petrol. Oil is the black stuff they pump out of the ground. Petrol is the clear stuff you put in your car.
Ah, quite right. Mea culpa.
Frankly I think Israel, and the Jews, just need to face the music and accept that Israel is not going to exist much longer. The Jews’ brief and unlikely moment as a victorious and strong people will be history, fondly-remembered mythology. It was a fluke. Almost everyone in the world is against their country; they get singled out in ways that nobody else on earth does. Now their neighbors are developing the power to finally wipe them off the map, as they’ve always wanted - and I fully believe that it will happen soon. Jews will have to go back to being a people without a home, and eventually they will probably die off from assimilation anyway.
I seriously doubt they will, but I certainly wouldn’t have thought they’d decide to invade and take over the American Embassy in Tehran, that they’d kidnap a bunch of British sailors a few years ago, or that they’d engage in a number of other really reckless actions.
People who believe they’re being commanded by God and that if they talk ten-year-old kids into blowing themselves up that they’ll go to heaven to spend eternity fucking virgins aren’t exactly sane.
Furthermore, I pissed myself laughing at your assertion they’re not lunatics.
The Iranian government was confronted a while ago with the decision of what to do regarding virgin girls in prison whom they wanted to execute since they were prohibited from doing so. They decided to have the girls “marry” Basij members who would then deflower the girls(according to Iranian law husbands can’t rape wives) then, after the girls are executed, have the Basij return the dowry to the girl’s parents so they knew what happened to their girl.
People who do things like that are a lot of things, but they’re not sane.
I do have to admit that it’s hysterically funny that you’re terrified to death of “Christianists” in the US but despise Jews for being terrified of a government that has sponsored the bombings of Jewish community centers, Bat Mitzvahs and weddings, while proclaiming that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are historical fact.
Er… yes. As I said, it mean “Land of the Aryans”.
Like I’ve said, we were the original Aryans.
Wikipedia is a really shitty source.
Please don’t try and pretend you know a lot about my native country because you’ve skimmed an article or two in wikipedia.
Your ignorance of the country you’re trying to defend is astonishing.
The Shah was not overthrown by the Iranian people, but by the British and the Russians during WWII.
You’re thinking of his son.
How is it that Der Trihs doesn’t find Iran’s religious lunatics worrysome or abborhent but regularly tells us that raising your children in religion is akin to child abuse? Israel is the more secular player here, but somehow Israel is still the pariah. Saying that ‘Christian lunatics are closer’ is not making his case.
I’m still trying to figure out how Israel is planning on the ‘mass muder’ of the people of Iran.
Again, I’m not sure why you’re so insistent on this.
The Shah was allying himself with Hitler in the 1930s, which is why the British overthrew him in the 1940s, and part of the way he tried to curry favor was to appeal to Hitlers beliefs about “the Aryans”.
That doesn’t mean that he invented the term “Iran” or even that he was motivated by anti-Semitism or that people call themselves “Iranians”(as do I) to display anti-Semitic feeling.
I was just listing it as one of the reasons why Jews are a little nervous, though it’s well, well below touting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, hosting Holocaust Denial Conferences, sponsoring TV miniseries in which evil Jews kidnap Muslim children to cut out their eyes, and sponsor bombing in Sbarros’ full of Jewish kids.
This is getting a little silly.
(also, I kinda question that the British overthrew the first Shah because he was allied with Hitler. From what I’ve read, they overthrew him because he wanted to keep Iran neutral and wouldn’t let them use his railroads to move lend-lease supplies to Stalin. But I won’t overwelm you with requests for cites since you seem to be having trouble with just the one. So I’m just looking for a cite that Iran “took it’s name to curry favor with Hitler”)
Or, to word it another way, because he supported Hitler during WWII while remaining officially neutral.
Insisting that that Shah wasn’t allied with Hitler is like claiming that Franco wasn’t .
There’s no need to be insulting.
http://www.payvand.com/news/04/dec/1153.html
Again, I do find it hysterical that you’re trying to dispute that the Shah was allied with Hitler.
Once again, why does everybody assume Israel can just decide to do that and succeed?
Why do you assume they can’t. I’d be very surprised if they haven’t been preparing for this event for years as a top priority.
Cite?
I only ask because the wiki entry on Iran does not back up your claims.
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Not a word in there about Hitler or about anyone being deposed. So: cite?
Missed the edit window, but I did see your “cite”: a non-researched piece by someone with no creditability that I know of, written over 7 years ago. This is your only cite?
And it includes stuff like (bolding mine):
So that’s at least two unsupported things written in your “cite”. Have you got any cites for your cite?
OP’s question seems interesting, but my own follow-on questions have gone unanswered. Is not Iran’s equipment underground, perhaps even at unknown locations? Would “surgical” strikes against their nuclear weapons development even be possible, or would general infrastructure destruction be needed? Arab countries claim to be worried about Iran; do they want to help? (Or does animosity against Israel outweigh their anti-Iran feelings?) And what about Iraq? Under Shi’ite control, is it becoming friendlier to Iran?
BTW: Thank you, Ibn Warraq, for the interesting historical fact I was unaware of. I’ll be sure to add a “might” if I insert this fact into one of my own posts. 
For what it’s worth, Reza Shah was pro-Nazi. How much of that was sincere and how much was just an attempt to get out from other the British thumb, I don’t know, but Iran did really increase trade with Germany, imported a lot of German technicians and advisors, and Ahmad Matin-Daftari was fairly outspokenly pro-German.
I’m mystified by that as well.
The Iranians have learned from Osirak just the way the Egyptian Air Force learned from the 1967 War.
So, obviously, they changed their name to Iran to curry favor with Ned Stark.