It's time to officially Pit Joe Paterno and the Penn State football program.

Good Christ, this is still going on…

I really like how S_A tries to argue that he wins because Sandusky was not convicted of one specific charge, as though the other several dozen charges he WAS convicted on were parking violations. Which, er, metaphorically I guess they were, of a sort, if you consider where he had a habit of parking his member to be a violation.

I’m sure, however, that if the Great Artiste just asserts one more time that he’s right, and that he doesn’t care what anyone thinks, I’m sure we’ll all be convinced. Yep, one more time should do it. Well, maybe two.

He doesn’t care what we think, as he makes sure to tell us endlessly because he cares what we think.

Are you people just congenitally incapable of thinking straight? :smack:

I won that one point against MsDingaling because she claimed I have been attempting to disprove a charge that Sandusky was convicted of when in reality he was convicted. I have said many times in this thread that for the crimes Sandusky has provably committed, hang him from the nearest yardarm (or words to that effect).

This is yet one more area where you people can’t think straight: I haven’t been defending Sandusky; I’ve been getting at the truth. As Bricker asked in another thread when this subject was brought up, is pointing out that someone didn’t do something “defending him”?

Nonsense. I just want to be on record as not being swayed by schoolyard attempts at intimidation, and because there seems to be no end to the attempts, it becomes endlessly necessary to reassert their ineffectiveness…just so, you know, the lamebrain making them and their likeminded cronies don’t think they’ve scored some sort of point. :wink:

Oh, there’s a statement I can get behind.

Being told by a clearly insane person that I’m not thinking straight. Wel, I’ll give that all the consideration that’s due.

Absolute bullshit. Any of the poor lost souls who have bothered to read at least some of this trainwreck can see for themselves that you have fixated almost solely on the incident involving Victim #2, with hardly a mention of the more than forty other cases that were decided against Sandusky, much less saying anything like, “hang him from the nearest yardarm”. If you ever did, I hope you’ll forgive me for not happening to see it in the clutter of hundreds upon hundreds of posts by you that said no such thing.

Since you actually use quotes there, would you mind reminding me in which post I accused you of “defending him” (Sandusky, presumably)?

Also, I’m not “you people”, I’m at least “you person”. But hey, you can call me El; I don’t stand on ceremony.

What makes you think anyone is trying to sway you to do anything at this point? You are an insane person; no one expects logic or sense from a person with the sort of tunnel-visioned mania that you have displayed here.

Please, though explain your position one more time. I’m absolutely certain we’ll finally get it.

I, for one, don’t think that kids wanting to play ball at Penn State should be penalized for things which occurred before they showed interest in playing football there (or in some cases, before they were even born) and for the which the offender (Sandusky) and his erstwhile “accomplices” (Penn State and the late Joe Paterno) have already paid a hefty price.

While this was a sad and sordid affair, as far as I can see it is over. Whether or not it should have been addressed sooner is rather pointless now as the time to do that has obviously passed. Sandusky is in prison for remainder of his life, millions in damages have been paid and Joe Paterno’s legacy has been destroyed.

This matter is over as far as I can see. Unless people feel the need to keep dredging it back up. If so, then there’s always the Catholic Church if you wish to bash unrepetant criminals and child molesters.

It’s certainly a larger and an easier target.

Wait, we still need to hear Starving_Artist out. He’s just on the verge of convincing everyone that Joe Paterno was treated unfairly, I can feel it.

Ahem, there’s no underscore in my name.

Like I said, congenitally incapable of getting anything right! :smiley:

And now I’m out for the day. I gots shopping to do, bikes to ride and fun to be had.

Which of course means I’ll have to come back later to ask nevadaexile for evidence that JoePa or anyone at Penn State was any sort of “accomplice” to Sandusky’s crimes, for so far the thread is bereft of a shred.

Later, taters!

Lock up the kids!!

That’s not how it should work. You made the accusation and you should prove it.

It’s not like you don’t have what to work with - SA has over 750 posts to this thread. If he’s said that Sandusky is innocent of all the charges against him, you should be able to find it somewhere.

As noted previously, this thread is about Paterno, not Sandusky. So the focus is naturally on the case in which Paterno was involved, i.e. Victim 2.

What might be remarkable is that so many people in this thread have lost sight of this (to the point where many people have actually confused the accusations against Sandusky with the accusations against Paterno). But in truth it’s not really remarkable. Partly because people tend to get confused in a lot of threads here. But primarily it’s because many people are so driven by righteous indignation and avenging fury about molestation-related matters that they lose even what little reasoning ability they might otherwise have. CHILD RAPER!!! STRING HIM UP!!! Not exactly a mindset that lends itself to nuance, even at a minimal level.

Beg to differ. I’ve been here through the entire train wreck. There was some amount of righteous indignation, but initially little confusion. Then along came S A with his “It’s impossible!” declarations, his squat-thrust scenarios culminating in the now-iconic paper towel tube “test”, on through his clearly deranged rants about WINNING!

I blame him and his irrationality for turning the rest of us into pudding-brained stammering morons. I include myself, since I’m really not sure if I had any other point to offer.

Oh yeah, there was something! Way back in Post 6457, El Kabong refers to S A as the Great Artiste. Please, buddy, don’t do that! The Great Artiste was a B-29 bomber that, among other assignments, flew on both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bomb missions. I had the honor of having a personal interview with its commander, Charles Albury, at his Miami Springs home several years ago. I recorded the hour and a half of reminiscences and forwarded it to an Air Force archivist on Guam. So please, don’t give our own special (and I say that in exactly the derogatory way you expect) Artist that much credit. The aircraft was named for the skill and accuracy of its bombardier, Kermit Beahan. There is nothing skillful or artistic about the blatherings of our own rather mis-named performer.

Won’t someone please, please kill this off now? Anything new can be addressed in another thread. Keeping this one open just gives a forum for further rants by – err, you know who.

I disagree. And besides for the confusion between Sandusky and Paterno, there was also a lot of confusion between the 1998 incident and the 2001/2 incident. Plus a lot of general all-purpose confusion.

But while we’re discussing your having “been here through the entire train wreck”, and your claims to understand the dynamic of the thread on that basis, perhaps we should discuss your earlier quasi-claim that no one has asserted that Paterno knowingly covered up for a child raper. I found this so bizarre - that was pretty much the mainstream position in this thread (and not a tremendousy far out claim altogether, frankly) - that I assumed it was a trick question and didn’t respond. But your reaction when someone else promptly made the assertion you were denying existed seemed to indicate otherwise. If so, then I would say your assessment of this thread is not worth all that much. Perhaps you were focused on weightier matters at the time. :slight_smile:

I presume we will be seeing an equivalent post directed to S A, chiding him for not linking to all the posts where people supposedly misstated or lied about things he said, as he has been so fond of claiming, right?

I only post to the occasional revivals of this thread to express my oipinion that Starving Artist is one of most worthless sacks of skin to ever have posted to this board. That’s my sole intent at this point, given that the title subject of the thread is long resolved. And, sorry, but your insufferable pedantry puts you not far behind him.

I don’t put people on ignore, but you are not a person with whom I see any point in engaging, so that’s all you’re going to hear directly from me. Good luck to you, sir.

Yeah, his old “lying via specificity” bit - Sandusky wasn’t convicted of rape, therefore he’s innocent of rape and Paterno is innocent of covering up for rape, etc. Other charges Sandusky faced and was convicted on…? Crickets.
Anyway, this thread is still running? Madness, and I can casually guess whose.

I agree. Pedophilia can be awfully confusing. old rolleyes

No difference to me whether you engage or not, so do your thing by all means.

But I would observe that your high minded reticence in this regard contrasts with your eagerness to repeatedly regurgitate your opinion “that Starving Artist is one of most worthless sacks of skin to ever have posted to this board”, and suggests lower minded motivations. Possibly compensating for your own failings or inadequacies, to list just one example.

[No need to respond to this. If you do want to respond, what you could do is address your comments to another poster, so as to save face. But no need. Just a helpful suggestion.]

Meh, it suggests insufficient statistical sampling; Starving Artist is at best a high second-tier among the worthless sacks of skin to ever have posted to this board. Maybe in the 80-90th percentile on the worthless sack of skin whisker plot. I’ve seen posters as stupid and as stubborn, he just gave his best demo of his worthless sack of skin qualities on this particular topic, where previously he was just a commonplace determinedly-irrational conservative.

Right. I thought about the B-29 and its history after I posted, and I am duly chastened to have used that name in such a cavalier manner. Won’t happen again.