My daughter is a Penn State grad. She used to wear PSU hoodies, have a PSU license plate, use a PSU coffee mug, etc. Ever since the Sandusky/Paterno thing she has dumped all of it. She is still proud of her profession (nursing) but doesn’t wanna be seen as a supporter of her alma mater.
As far as giving them the wins back, I think at this point, does it really matter? We already know they won, they know they won, it’s stupid to just say, “oh, we’re not going to count it in the record book”. (Isn’t THAT re-writing history too?)
HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean you sweep this all under the rug. That doesn’t mean they have to put Paterno’s statue back up. They could change the name of the library as well. Still keep this in the public minds. Set up a charity towards helping children who’ve been abused. There’s probably ways to do both.
That’s certainly a real concern.
There certainly are mouth breathing class-A jerkoffs (a couple in this very thread, actually) who would try to use even that tiny foothold to make the giant leap and try to retroactively unrape children.
But going forward, most people associated with Penn State aren’t going to forget or be allowed to forget. The children’s charities are already established. And the shame will linger in the public consciousness for a generation (and in recorded form for longer).
The wins are meaningless at this point either way. All it really does is demonstrate once again how clueless and inept the NCAA really is.
Sometime about a year ago I saw an announcement for five faculty positions at PSU, seeking people with a research focus in child trauma. The state also changed the requirements for continuing education for psychologists to make sure that at least part of their CE is in mandated reporting - I’d bet we weren’t the only discipline to have that change.
I’m sure lots of other changes are going on.
But while we’re at it, can we make sure the statue is fed to a car crusher, then melted into five hundred paperweights so nobody is tempted to put it up again?
500 JoePa paperweights?
500 Jake Robeson paperweights, with a nice big “106-0” caption on each one.
Like this?
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Updating this thread:
Not at all surprised by this news – the evidence had already showed, over and over again, that Paterno valued his reputation and the reputation of the Penn State football program over protecting children from harm.
Just when I thought it was safe to put the paper towel tubes away …
Someone should have to fornicate a zombie in front of their coworkers for bumping this thread. And not be allowed a shower thereafter.
No kidding. I’d blocked this thread out long ago, only to have some mf resurrect it. May they burn in hell for eternity :mad:
It’s still startling, and heartbreaking, that there’s evidence of such going back a further 18 years earlier.
Joe is. Jerry will join him.
Yet another reason to be a Pitt fan.
Of course the usual Penn State excuse makers are already out on full force on this. “Let Joe rest in peace”, the latest accusation is by someone looking for a quick buck (or, better yet, from Jerry Sandusky), Joe didn’t molest the children Jerry Sandusky did, blah blah blah the shocking lack of shame you typically hear from those people that come from that place.
I am reserving judgment - one line without detail or corroboration is not yet enough to warrant getting the axe-sharpener out of the basement.
But if it does transpire that Joe had reason to suspect something was amiss as early as 1976…man, that’s bad. Very, very bad.
Before we go besmirching the name of Joe Paterno, who I remind you is a good, decent and honorable man because he coached a football team that won a lot of very important football games, let’s remember that we’re talking about court papers here. We need input from an expert— someone intimately familiar with paperwork, who knows all the ins and outs, who’s pumped up and ready to hunker down and thrust himself into the middle of this thing, someone who knows which end is up and is willing to see it through to completion. If nothing hard turns up it won’t mean squat, but oh boy oh boy oh boy, things could get messy REAL fast.
Hang on there - JoePa is certainly beloved because of his football success but he was also involved in a lot of charity work and it’s notable that one of the main buildings named after him is not a sports hall but a library to which he donated millions. Even if he did (allegedly) deliberately disregard allegations of child abuse he did some good things too.
People are rarely all good or all bad; let us recognize both in their measure. I will not excuse his crimes nor erase his good deeds.
Yeah. Like supplying free boys to Sandusky.