…so that’s a “no” then?
I’m withholding judgement until I have more information, which isn’t really a yes or no. But if a poster said “I’m trans, and though I don’t dress or act as a woman, and I’ve no intention of having surgery, I demand you affirm my identity as a woman”, then I’d say “Nope. You’re a man.” Does that help?
…yep.
It’s clear that you are fully prepared to interrogate fellow posters here on intimate details of their lives and that you are prepared to misgender them if they fail to pass “your test.” You are the ultimate arbiter of identity.
The argument is not that transwomen are perverts. It’s that nothing is stopping perverts from identifying as trans.
Can you to appreciate this distinction on your part? If I were a transwoman, I’d be the first one distancing myself from Anthony Scales. The fact that people like him can easily exploit self-identification has troubling implications to the transgender community, just as it has implications to the safety of women and children.
They are campaigning to allow people to change their legal gender by statutory declaration. This will allow male sexual predators much easier access to women’s prisons. And they support imprisoning trans prisoners according to the gender they are living in, even in the absence of a legal sex change. This is the policy that led to the Karen White case.
I support doing what is in children’s long term best interests, not what makes them happy in the short term.
Am I to infer from this that you believe that anyone who says they are a woman should be treated as one in all particulars, regardless of how they present?
…good for them!
Everybody agrees that male sexual predators should not have access to women’s prisons.
We’ve been over this in this thread. This was not the policy that lead to Karen White. Nobody supports what happened with Karen White.
So you support what Mermaids and what Stonewall do then. Fantastic!!!
More bearshit. He said he’d make a judgement based on information the hypothetical poster volunteered, or suspend judgement, not interrogate anyone. He’s entitled to form an opinion as to another person’s sincerity.
@iiandyiiii felt entitled to an opinion on transwoman Anthony Scale’s sincerity, why don’t you go harangue him?
They are supporting experimental treatment on children that is driven by ideology, not science. They are harming children.
Yeah, but some people here think trans women’s ‘right’ to affirmation is ever so much more important than women’s safety.
…except I wasn’t talking about “hypothetical people.” This isn’t a hypothetical discussion.
YWTF feels entitled to opine on what is going on in every male posters head. Why don’t you go harangue her?
They are not harming children. Don’t be ridiculous. The “treatments” aren’t “experimental.” And everything is guided by the science.
This isn’t a binary debate. The right to affirmation doesn’t explicitly harm women’s safety.
…you are entitled to infer whatever the fuck you like. That wouldn’t necessarily mean your inference is correct.
::Sigh::
Fine. We’ll do this the long way. I’ll state what I think your position is. You’ll accuse me of strawmanning or misrepresentation or whatever without bothering to say how I’m doing so. Then we’ll go back and forward until I get it right or one of us dies of boredom. Is that how you want to play it?
Okay. It’s my belief that you oppose anything which even smells like ‘gatekeeping’. If a person says they’re a woman, that’s good enough for you and anyone who doesn’t treat that person as a woman in every respect is a TERF and a bigot.
Which brings me back to my original question, which you still haven’t answered: If a man is convicted of a violent crime and tells the judge that he’s a woman so he can serve his sentence in a safer prison, should the judge send him to a women’s prison? If not, why not?
…that works for me!!!
What are you going on about? I did no such thing.
…what are you going on about? Of course you did.
If you can find a post where I opined about every male poster in this thread, I’m dying to see that shit. Because that would include everyone from @RickJay, @Dr.Strangelove, @Biffster, @filmore, you, @Trinopus, and @iiandyiiii. Plus more.
Even if I’m guilty of this “crime”, it’s hilarious that you’re acting like it even is a crime. Omg, someone in IMHO is expressing opinions about people!
…ah okay. #notallmen. Gotcha. Just the ones you disagree with. Okay.
Except I haven’t accused you of “a crime.” Nothing of the sort. This is utterly ridiculous hyperbole.
Still not seeing any evidence to substantiate even this claim, though.
Just thing #3,403 we gotta take on faith.
May I direct your attention to this pile of insulting, pseudo-scientific bullshit?
Yes, yes, you didn’t mean “all men.” Just all the men who dared to stand up to you and advocate for the rights of trans women.