Wow, what a beautiful film.
So much fun for film buffs as Bertolucci pays tribute to great films of the past. A great “slice of the 60’s” portrait. A great challenging distinction between paying lip service to social ideals vs. actually taking social responsibility. Beautifully shot. And entertaining from start to finish.
And Jake Gyllenhaal turned this movie down because he didn’t want to show his penis! What a fucking baby! I actually kinda respected him as a talented young actor who was quite discerning in his project choices until I heard this story (as told by himself in an interview with Carson Daly last year).
This was a chance to work with Bertolucci. Fucking Bertolucci! A true film artist! C’mon! The guy who did The Conformist! Last Tango in Paris! What the fuck, Gyllenhaal? It’s not like this was Joe Eszterhas skin-flick garbage. When you are fortunate enough in your career to have Bertolucci ask you to show your penis, whip it out!
I must say now that I’ve seen the film I’m glad Gyllenhaal pussied out. Michael Pitt was excellent and I hope this leads to a lot of good work for him. I can’t even imagine Gyllenhaal in the role now. I don’t think he’d have been nearly as good.
Oh, come on Otto! As a fellow gay man who loves to watch Jake’s movies because he always seems to have a scene where he masturbates, I beg you to share some details!
I’ve heard that that’s the same reason Don Knotts left the cast of ANDY GRIFFITH; he felt that the “Barney Shows His Penis” script for season 6 was out of character and unnecessary. He left and the episode was rewritten as “Howard has a Party”, with Bertolucci directing under the pseudonym “Howard Morris”.
Let’s look at the OP again from an alternate dimension:
*The Dreamers
Wow, what a beautiful film.
So much fun for film buffs as Bertolucci pays tribute to great films of the past. A great “slice of the 60’s” portrait. A great challenging distinction between paying lip service to social ideals vs. actually taking social responsibility. Beautifully shot. And entertaining from start to finish.
And Kirsten Dunst turned this movie down because she didn’t want to show her tits! What a fucking baby! I actually kinda respected her as a talented young actress who was quite discerning in her project choices until I heard this story (as told by herself in an interview with Carson Daly last year).
This was a chance to work with Bertolucci. Fucking Bertolucci! A true film artist! C’mon! The guy who did The Conformist! Last Tango in Paris! What the fuck, Gyllenhaal? It’s not like this was Joe Eszterhas skin-flick garbage. When you are fortunate enough in your career to have Bertolucci ask you to show your tits, let those puppies free!
I must say now that I’ve seen the film I’m glad Dunst pussied out. Eva Green was excellent and I hope this leads to a lot of good work for her. I can’t even imagine Dunst in the role now. I don’t think she’d have been nearly as good.*
Now if I’d typed that, I’d get reamed as a misogynistic fuck and rightly so. So why is it OK to say that about men?
Justin_Bailey, a misogynist is someone who hates all women. Repeat, hates, and repeat, all. Nothing in your example indicates that you even hate Kirsten Dunst. Finding Kirsten Dunst extremely sexually attractive, and saying so in so many words, does not mean that you hate her. If you believe that, you have been brainwashed by '70s-era feminism.
Oh, come on. It’s not about “showing genitals to thousands of people”. Actors are storytellers who create characters and tell a story through a physical and visual performance. The greatest actors are true artists.
If you’re going to reject the opportunity to participate in the creation of art, working alongside some of the most talented people in your chosen medium, because you are too inhibited to show your body- the body and the voice are the primary tools an actor uses in his/her craft- then you are a sham.
I’m not saying actors should simply be getting naked all of the time. An actor should be conscientious in his/her choices. Going naked when it isn’t a necessary element, going naked just to appeal to prurient interests, o.k. I can accept avoiding that (that was the point of my Joe Eszterhas example in the OP).
But Gyllenhaal himself said in the interview that he thought it was a great script and that he respected Bertolucci as a true artist. He just plain pussied out.
Look, man, not everyone is willing to sacrifice that much for art. Some people are (gasp) insecure about their own appearances. Or they’re just plain fucking not comfortable letting people see their genitals, even for the sake of brilliant art. And again, there’s nothing wrong with that.
You know, Gyllenhaal isn’t under any sort of requirement to show you his wee-wee. He doesn’t feel comfortable appearing naked in a movie. End of story. How is that any of your business in the first place?
