JD Vance Discussion Thread

What, and lose their influence over him? Nevar!

Every Fundie knows all Catholics, but especially Catholics in government, take their direction from Rome.

Is this supposed to be serious? I can’t tell.

Especially a Spanish speaking foreigner from a shit-hole country in South America.

After all, they stole our name!

I’m certain it’s ironic.

I’ve been hearing that shit since I was in kindergarten in Catholic school.

If that was directed at my comment about direction from Rome, I was making the serious suggestion that the fundie morons really do believe that. Not that I think Catholic pols actually take direction from Rome.

So the Pope not taking action against Vance amounts to “proof” in fundie eyes that Vance is in effect a papal stooge. They’re OK w trump as Putin’s stooge, so evidently they’re not that worked up about stooges in power.

If only there was a third stooge nosing around the White House we’d have the makings of a 1930s-50s comedy skit.

You forgot Musk.

Does Tulsi Gabbard count? (Another Putin stooge, likely to be the next Director of National Intelligence.)

I suppose I could have made it a bit more obvious by italicizing the “only”. You, dear Madam, have been most thoroughly and sincerely whooshed.

Wouldn’t be the first time, or the last.

P.S. Points for remembering to use “Madam.”

I remember hearing it as a tyke aimed at JFK, and I’m not Catholic.

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Apparently, foreign democracies not having the exact first amendment model for free speech is more important to Vance than grand questions of war and peace.

Yesterday at the Munich Security Conference:

Vance attacks Europe over free speech and migration

The full speech text is here:

Read: JD Vance’s full speech on the fall of Europe

'Geez Europe! Why you gotta be Nazi Nazis?"
~ JD

Another good article about the conflict between MAGA and Rome.

Cat sat on your keyboard?

That is hilarious!!

I was going to write that JD Vance was on the street by my place yesterday for a wedding. I was working but saw him on TV. The channel’s camera person had he and his wife in the shot and the reporter said “I don’t recognize him in the shot.” I’m going to quit watching that channel.

He’s the one with the beards.

Whoever the Vatican picks as the next Pope will be a pretty good barometer of MAGA’s global power. Smart money would be a pick to appease the conservative American Catholics and avoid a schism.

The pattern in the modern church has been to alternate a “pastoral”-focused pope with an “academic”/doctrinal-focused one. Which casual observers looking from this side of the wall tend to cast as liberal v. conservative.

Francis’ successor just by basic probability was already likely to have a more disciplinarian, strict-observance approach and be less of a people-pleaser no matter what else was going on.

And when you do bear in mind general politics, let’s not forget RW populism has been on the rise everywhere and the church’s biggest growth is in the global South where cultures are traditionalist. Americans should not flatter themselves that they are the drivers.

(I miss Bricker when discussing tgese issues…)