I honestly think that several years from now, when more and more of Trump’s disgusting and illegal behaviour is revealed…
The (former) Trump apologists here will be all about “Well, what could you expect from Trump? He was a Democrat. He supported Bill Clinton you know.”
Same reason that serial killers are often pedophiles or necrophiles; power tripping and insecurity. Children and corpses are helpless, unlike an adult woman (or man for that matter).
Ah, a member of the political faction notorious for supporting pedophilia supports a pedophile. How shocking and surprising.
Euphonious_Polemic:
I honestly think that several years from now, when more and more of Trump’s disgusting and illegal behaviour is revealed…
The (former) Trump apologists here will be all about “Well, what could you expect from Trump? He was a Democrat. He supported Bill Clinton you know.”
I wouldn’t call him a Democrat but he’s not really a Republican either. He’s a Trumplicrat. He stands for whatever he thinks is in his best interests at the time. He certainly doesn’t have a long track record of being loyal to either party or its stated principles.
I think getting successfully nominated as a Republican and winning the presidency with an R next to his name says a lot more about the Republican Party than it says about him.
This is one of the best posts ever written here.
Well, first he’d need principles to be loyal to any.
enipla
July 8, 2019, 11:05pm
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Atamasama:
I wouldn’t call him a Democrat but he’s not really a Republican either. He’s a Trumplicrat. He stands for whatever he thinks is in his best interests at the time. He certainly doesn’t have a long track record of being loyal to either party or its stated principles.
I think getting successfully nominated as a Republican and winning the presidency with an R next to his name says a lot more about the Republican Party than it says about him.
Don’t think you quite understand. When his crimes come to light, or when the GOP is through with him they will call him a democrat, in essence blaming the democrats for his abhorrent behavior. I agree he isn’t anything but pro-Trump, but when the rubber meets the road, the GOP will blame someone else. It’s what they do.
"Fox anchor on Epstein charges: “Why now? 11 years ago that then-secret plea deal was reached, why is the US government taking another run at putting him behind bars.”
There is no bottom with these people.
If they’d have put Chris Hansen on the case this would have been wrapped up years ago.
I would totally watch To Catch A Billionaire Predator.
not_what_you_d_expect:
https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1148256436369186816
"Fox anchor on Epstein charges: “Why now? 11 years ago that then-secret plea deal was reached, why is the US government taking another run at putting him behind bars.”
There is no bottom with these people.
Because the friend of the sex trafficker - along with his many other crimes - put himself under the world’s biggest microscope.
It REALLY makes me curious just what other sorts of hush money payments and non disclosure agreements Michael Cohen was in charge of and what he might have shared with the Southern District of New York’s prosecutors.
MandaJo:
In all honesty, I do not understand why banging children has so often been treated as a quirk in “sophisticated” circles. Roman Polanski, Jeffery Epstein, Kevin Spacey, those British dudes. God only knows how many others.
Is it actually children he’s accused of raping? Is the ‘pedophile’ label an accurate one? Because all I read is “underage” girls were involved. That could mean teenagers as old as 17. Unless these victims were pre-teen children, calling him a pedophile, while it may viscerally feel good to do so, only serves to soften the perception of what it actually means to be a pedophile. Make no mistake, I think this guy is irredeemable scum who deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison. His heinous actions speak for themselves.
Ambivalid:
Is it actually children he’s accused of raping? Is the ‘pedophile’ label an accurate one? Because all I read is “underage” girls were involved. That could mean teenagers as old as 17. Unless these victims were pre-teen children, calling him a pedophile, while it may viscerally feel good to do so, only serves to soften the perception of what it actually means to be a pedophile. Make no mistake, I think this guy is irredeemable scum who deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison. His heinous actions speak for themselves.
14-15 years old for the most part. You must not have read all that much if you didn’t read that.
enipla:
Don’t think you quite understand. When his crimes come to light, or when the GOP is through with him they will call him a democrat, in essence blaming the democrats for his abhorrent behavior. I agree he isn’t anything but pro-Trump, but when the rubber meets the road, the GOP will blame someone else. It’s what they do.
It’s already going on in both threads, where people repeatedly bring up Bill Clinton’s name for the favorite trick of conservatives: bothsideserism.
I didn’t, you’re right. I didn’t claim to have read much. Looking at the post now, I think i worded some of it poorly. When i said “all i read” was that the victims were underage, I simply meant “the only part I read” said the victims were underage.
Reminds me of this quote from the movie Paper Moon:
Moses Pray: I got scruples too, you know. You know what that is? Scruples?
Addie Loggins: No, I don’t know what it is, but if you got 'em, it’s a sure bet they belong to somebody else!
Ambivalid:
I didn’t, you’re right. I didn’t claim to have read much. Looking at the post now, I think i worded some of it poorly. When i said “all i read” was that the victims were underage, I simply meant “the only part I read” said the victims were underage.
This article went into a lot of detail:
“By the time I was 16, I had probably brought him 70 to 80 girls who were all 14 and 15 years old. He was involved in my life for years,” said Wild, who was released from prison in October after serving three years on drug charges.
The girls — mostly 13 to 16 — were lured to his pink waterfront mansion by Wild and other girls, who went to malls, house parties and other places where girls congregated, and told recruits that they could earn $200 to $300 to give a man — Epstein — a massage, according to an unredacted copy of the Palm Beach police investigation obtained by the Herald.
Further along the article:
“We were stupid, poor children,’’ said one woman, who did not want to be named because she never told anyone about Epstein. At the time, she said, she was 14 and a high school freshman.
“We just wanted money for school clothes, for shoes. I remember wearing shoes too tight for three years in a row. We had no family and no guidance, and we were told that we were going to just have to sit in a room topless and he was going to just look at us. It sounded so simple, and was going to be easy money for just sitting there.”
The woman, who went to Epstein’s home multiple times, said Epstein didn’t like her because her breasts were too big. The last time she went, she said, one girl came out crying and they were instructed to leave the house and had to pay for their own cab home.
Some girls told police they were coached by their peer recruiters to lie to Epstein about their ages and say they were 18. Epstein’s legal team would later claim that even if the girls were under 18, there was no way he could have known. However, under Florida law, ignorance of a sex partner’s age is not a defense for having sex with a minor.
Wild said he was well aware of their tender ages — because he demanded they be young.
The guy is a pedophile.
Monty
July 9, 2019, 4:17am
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MandaJo:
In all honesty, I do not understand why banging children has so often been treated as a quirk in “sophisticated” circles. Roman Polanski, Jeffery Epstein, Kevin Spacey, those British dudes. God only knows how many others.
There’s no logic to it. Look at all the abuse, lies, and false charges leveled at Woody Allen.
The SDNY is arguing that Epstein be held without bail. (PDF)
While these items were only seized this weekend and are still being reviewed, somealso found compact discs with hand-written labels including the ,” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.” The defendant, a
Emphasis mine.
Looks like someone may well have had some blackmail material…
asahi
July 9, 2019, 10:45am
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not_what_you_d_expect:
https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1148256436369186816
"Fox anchor on Epstein charges: “Why now? 11 years ago that then-secret plea deal was reached, why is the US government taking another run at putting him behind bars.”
There is no bottom with these people.
All the Fox website headlines I saw yesterday were implicating Clinton and the Democrats. I’m guessing some Republicans are about to be exposed.
