What am I missing about the Epstein files?

In My Humble Opinion
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Follow along with me. I know I’m most often the one whose head doesn’t make sense to people, but I’m going to do my best here.

He’s quite often told us all that he’s like this, that he’s a sex creep, that he doesn’t like women but likes exploiting them for sex, and that he likes the power-over component.

So, wait, what? … now y’all are all horrified that he’d bring that attitude into his interaction with underage girls???

I don’t get it! He told you he likes power over, that he doesn’t care about these female people… I mean, speaking as a male, I don’t think he likes anybody very much, he just envies a few and wants to acquire whatever they’ve got. But he’s got a really nasty fucking attitude towards women and girls.

What part of of course he was gonna go there didn’t you understand from back when?

He likes to hurt people. He likes vulnerability. He likes to coerce. Nod your head if you’d long since had that evaluation of him too, ok? Even you assholes who worship him, that’s what you like about him, and you want to emulate that.

So this is a good place to draw the line, yeah.

But back to the way this issue is hurting him, which I’m fine if it does, of course, …who ARE the people who didn’t see all along that this personality characteristic would manifest with these behaviors? Did you miss fifth grade? Didn’t you have to cope with these people as you grew up?

I don’t get it, why would you EVER want one of them to be in charge of stuff?

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I have a Trump cultist Facebook friend. (Step cousin of a high school friend… who has since gone over to the dark side.) She absolutely, unequivocally believes that her Messiah is not involved in any way with Epstein, and that he is not in the Epstein files in spite of photographic evidence. Trump is perfect in every way, and anyone who says otherwise is deluded, lying, a victim of FAKE NEWSm etc. She is completely convinced that the only perpetrators in the Epstein files are Democrats.

Thirty percent of the U.S. population either believes the same thing, or they don’t care because Liberals want to destroy the United States and Democrats are evil.

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Kinda makes a person reevaluate their opinion of our species, frighteningly enough.

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Or they’re fine with it.

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To borrow and twist a metaphor: there’s plenty of people who are OK with a face-eating leopard whose eating habits suggest it would probably eat baby faces given the opportunity. They can always kid themselves the face-eating leopard probably wouldn’t actually eat a baby’s face while there is no specific evidence of it having done so.

But actually being confronted by evidence that their leopard ate baby faces is quite another thing. Especially for people who have long white knighted themselves as crusaders against baby face eating.

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Just for clarification,“he” is Trump, right? Only you don’t actually say.

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I suspect that part of the issue is that since Trump is proudly evil in so many ways, him acting so afraid of the files being released makes it look like there must be something really awful in there. Trump acts like there’s something astonishingly bad in those files.

Mind, my personal suspicion is that what he’s so afraid being revealed is embarrassing rather than illegal, or possibly even immoral. Because he’s a malignant narcissist, not a moralist. He’d prefer being filmed indulging in cannibalism over being revealed to have done something perfectly moral that he considers embarrassing.

But regardless of that, he acts guilty which is bad optics.

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I’m still unclear as to whether the OP is talking about Epstein or Trump.

There are no names in the post, and the only name in the title is Epstein.

mmm

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Indeed. When that birthday book came out - for all the hysteria - it was (largely) a nothingburger yet Trump had to deny his involvement even though it was ridiculously obvious. Yeah its embarrassing to be a buddy of a pedo but there was nothing in that book was evidence of anything. But he just had to deny, like a five year old caught with his hand in the cookie jar and crumbs round his mouth.

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it might be the fear of being exposed as having inadequately small anatomy, …

like his hands (cough cough)

jokes aside: one “diffuse” concern of me is - if there is anything of substance in the E-files - the russians will have had it for a long time already - and might have let him know that fact… (which would also explain a certain behaviour of him)

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I think there is also the idea that MAGA thought that Trump, when he became president, was going to expose all those horrible Democrat pedos that were in the files. But now that he is president, he’s just sitting on that stuff. I’m sure there are plenty of MAGA who don’t think that Trump is in the files, but still feel betrayed because he’s not going after the pedo Democrats like he said he would.

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I ask, ‘If your Messiah isn’t in the Epstein files, why doesn’t He release them? Why is He protecting Clinton?’

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Between that and the amount of Russian investment in trump stuff, there’s zero doubt he’s just a Russian stooge now. And has been since before he entered politics. I don’t see any reason for anyone to be coy about it.

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Yes, sorry. I meant Trump.

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For the conspiracy theory types there has long been the belief that the rich and powerful are full of pedophiles who get away with it due to the wealth/power. Remember Pizzagate? More partisan ones think “its only D/Rs who do it” but many seem to think it is both of them. Epstein is pretty much that theory, but in real life.

Such believers are a big part of Trump’s core support. Publishing the files was an important campaign promise. Then once elected he instead blocks the release. Watching an MTG interview the other day, that seems like a bigger betrayal for her than being personally insulted/called a traitor, etc.

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What I am missing, is, why haven’t the files been released already? What in fuck’s name are they waiting for?

And, does anyone believe the files (whatever they are) are in any way still genuine? After this long, can we trust what they will say?

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Friday. They’re waiting for Friday.

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Why? Why Friday? Why not weeks ago, Nov 19, to be precise?

It’s just more foot dragging. They’ll find some reason to delay.

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Of course they will.

If by some miracle the files were uncensored and released whole, it’s kind a major crapshoot what might happen. Who knows who among the rich and famous are implicated. Idjit trump himself cares for nothing but his personal reputation. But a lot of other people who have influence care about themselves too.

And at least strategically minded folks in both parties some about how a full release might “play in Peoria” as they used to say.

My bet is there’s stuff showing trump doing very submissive stuff and / or that he’s anatomically damaged. Neither of which his ego could stand. And pretty much anyone else with their hands on the levers of the release process are afraid of the consequences if they leak.