I was thinking “tar and feathers.” Yours is better.
Let’s tattoo those motherfuckers, so we know who they are!
Nah, the smell usually gives them away.
So that’s why they wash five times a day!
One quote from that story rubs me the wrong way: (disclaimer: the rest of the story is extremely disturbing for obvious reasons)
What on earth is THAT supposed to prove? I’m completely opposed to all the anti-Islam proposals mentioned in the article, would definitely be OK with Muslim neighbors, etc., but we live in the world we live in, and Islam is associated with tons of bad shit right now, which I’m aware of, and which is certainly rattling around somewhere near the front of my consciousness. So? Being aware of a connection between Islam and war/terrorism somehow makes me intolerant?
What a badly phrased poll, or what badly phrased reporting about a poll.
There are several reasons for this, I believe. Some that come to mind :
1 : Many religious people like to believe that religion is necessary. Atheists who don’t run around robbing and killing people undercut this belief. We don’t need religion, and that drives some religionists nuts.
2 : Many religious people fetishize faith. Over the years, I’ve heard priests say such things as “It’s better to kill in the name of Kali than it is to be an atheist and kill no one, because the Kali worshipper affirms faith and the atheist denies it.” Or that anti-aging research is evil, because that undercuts despair and despair promotes faith.
3 : There is a certain variety of fanatic ( not just religious ), who simply can’t believe that anyone disagrees with them. If you say you disagree, then you are lying or deluded.
4 : Religion is largely about us-vrs-them, and atheists are the one group that all religions can get together and look at as “them”.
5 : Many religious people have this bizarre notion that the only source of morality is God, therefore anyone who doesn’t believe in God is a monster.
6 : Atheists are a small, disunited minority, and therefore a safe target.
7? And they can’t scare us with hell, because there’s no such thing?
No heaven too, alas.
I can certainly say why I think of hatred when I hear “Islam.”
How ironic is it that many Merkins would have them tatooed or wearing armbands, to set them apart as Muslims, yet those same people think it’s an affront to let them wear their own (self-identifying) garb in schools or in public.
Not to further godwinize, but I keep saying, we are living in '30’s Germany. Each miniscule step drives us to that inevitable solution.
That more or less comes up under # 1 and # 5, and indirectly under # 3. Many theists in my experience don’t seem to grasp that I really don’t believe in heaven, hell or God, and that threatening/bribing people with things they don’t believe in doesn’t work.
An old councilor of mine said it was a great idea until it ran into NIMBY. (Not In My Back Yard).
Humanity will only be truly united if we make contact with extraterrestrials. Imagine an entire universe of sentiet beings to hate and fear. Just think of the possibilities. :rolleyes:
I’ve really been in a state of despair for the past couple of days. Not so much about what Rep. Goode said, but that so very many people agreed with him. I was already deeply troubled by what some of my fellow Muslims have done (I’m in the camp of “I’m glad I became a Muslim before I met one”). And I was already ashamed of what my country has done in Iraq. Now I feel not only depressed by these issues but now, as a Muslim, I am becoming afraid to live in my own country. My family has been here for 350 years, but I think it is time to seriously consider moving elsewhere. I welcome country recommendations.
Go back to fucking Baghdad, then!
Sorry, that was a CHEAP joke at your expense.
No, I truly am sorry. I’ve always been kinda proud that my family had been here for over 125 years. And yours has been for almost 3 times as long. It makes me embarrssed to be an American that people think like this.
This is not exactly the thread to link this to, but it’ll do. I don’t feel like starting another. The anti-Muslim sentiment is damn scary enough, but it is only the tip of the iceberg. Our government is spying on both our people and foreigners in this country. They wipe their ass with the Geneva convention, interpreting it as they see fit. And this issue just makes my blood boil even more! Our government is petitioning the courts to JAIL journalists, for not revealing their source in really, a meaningless case. It’s just fucking baseball. BFD. But it sets a terrible precedent. I’m telling you, '30’s Germany.
Sweden, Norway and Finland have been nicknamed ‘secular havens,’ and at least the youth would love to see more foreign immigration into Scandinavia. (Mind, if you’re coming to Norway, I would recommend some form of a more ‘urban’ area, rather than the rural areas. Few rural areas have facilities for practicing religions outside of the state church and with the dying generation the mistrust still runs)
I’ve had many occasions to be grateful for growing up in a country where your average joe can’t get worked up about religion, and the ‘battle of the gods’ is on a tiny scale. While I’d love to live in the US for a while, some of the attitudes that show up (and are taken seriously!) are frankly alien. (I don’t wish to antagonise anyone, please don’t be offended if I’m being callous)
Then there’s Jerusalem, where Muslims, Jews, and Christians all unite… to hate on the gays.
There were Jews who never left Nazi Germany too (until they were killed). What’s your point?
Fucking hell. 39 percent. I do not understand what’s so hard about seeing someone different then you as human. I figure there’s also sort of fear of “contamination” - I know neither my (Christian) nor my friend’s (Muslim) parents were happy about our friendship - they thought we’d convert the other and then oh noes! Now if we could stamp those 40% with stupid on their foreheads…
They didn’t have a place to go. They are free to leave Iran for Israel and to return. Quite a few seem to want to stay there, more than anywhere else in the Middle East. Sure it sucks to be them there. Not as bad as being a Palestinian living under ethnic & religious apartheid of the Jewish Israeli state of course, and certainly not anywhere as bad as Nazi Germany.