[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Y’know, about halfway through the thread I realized I had Joan Baez mixed up with Joni Mitchell. And I’m FORTY. Joni Mitchell is about 20 times better than Joan Baez. Dang, multiply my estimates of the numbers of old geezers who wanna hear her by .05
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I dunno about that, Lemur. I’ve seen them both in concert, and I’d actually give JB a bit of an edge. Don’t get me wrong, they are both wonderful artists in their own rights. I just find JM to be a little too depressing. (That’s JM = Joni Mitchell, not John Mace!)
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Wrong, wrong, a thousand times wrong. We are THE BOOMERS. We are eternally hip. We are not like our parents! How about showing some respect for your elders!!
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looks down, kicks shoes
I’m sorry, mister. I’ll go get off your lawn now. 
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Wait, John, how old are you? For some reason I have the idea that you’re my age (which is, ulp, 40). I was born in 1966. I ain’t no goddam baby boomer.
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I’ve got at least 10 years on you, young feller!
[QUOTE=DiosaBellissima]
looks down, kicks shoes
I’m sorry, mister. I’ll go get off your lawn now.
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And quit making so much noise!!!
Oh, too bad. Now we can never be friends again. No offense.
[QUOTE=Mr. Moto]
Oh, it’s probably a miscommunication of some sort. This isn’t the sort of thing to conspire over.
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If you’re going to assume that there was a miscommunication on the timeline, why not assume there was a miscommunication on the reason behind the decision? Maybe General Whassisface said to the booking agent, “If she comes here, I’ll shoot you and then her.” but it somehow got transcribed as, “Unfortunately she cannot attend due to a contractual technicality.”
[QUOTE=Fear Itself]
I still don’t know what age group that would be though. There have been only ~24,000 wounded in Iraq, while there were ~150,000 wounded in Vietnam. Plus, as many as 4 million WWII vets are still alive, and in the end stages of life, requiring medical care; and some of them are cared for at WR. Before I accept your casual estimate on the demographics at WR, I’d like to see some statistics.
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Most of the retirees and veterans who are cared for at Walter Reed are treated as outpatients. Those who have hospital stays there generally have short ones, thankfully.
Family members who are cared for there also are treated on an outpatient basis for the most part, or have short stays.
The bulk of patients who have long stays are either elderly patients with end of life issues or current military members who are dealing with the problems of recovery and rehabilitation after being wounded in combat. Entertainment at the hospital is generally aimed at these individuals.
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Oh, too bad. Now we can never be friends again. No offense.
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Actually, most of my friends are younger than you. No offense.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
And quit making so much noise!!!
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Can I just have my frisbee back?
Please?
The issue of posters assuming that the patients at Walter Reed would only want to hear one genre of music seems more than a bit odd, to me. Even if you only take the 19 - 23 year old demographic, you’re going to get folks who prefer Hip Hop (or Gansta Rap), Urban R&B, Country, Metal, Techno, and a host of other forms. Do we eliminate every act that does not appeal to everyone, leaving no one to perform? Beyond that, when I have been to concerts with folk groups I have seen a fairly large numbers of late teens and early twenty-somethings, so the claims that the patienrts don’t want Joan Baez are nothing more than personal prejudices projected onto a canvass of stereotypes.
It is possible that few, if any, patients would go out of their way to seek her out. That is a very different statement than that they would universally be bored or irritated to hear her, (the tin ears of geezers such as asterion and Mr Bus Guy notwithstanding).
May I point out that in addition to the war wounded patients staying at Walter Reed, the vast majority of whom are in outpatient status but still receiving daily therapy there (the average amputee stay is approx. 18 months), the vast majority of them have one or more family members staying with them, which is parents and grandparents as often (or more often) than spouses? So the actual age demographic on the Walter Reed campus is probably closer to 50 than to 20 if you include all the resident family members, staff, etc. (Don’t forget, staff sometimes are able to go to these types of events if they don’t fill up completely with patients.)
It’s not just a bunch of kids there, guys!!
[QUOTE=John Mace]
And quit making so much noise!!!
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Wait, Diosa is black?
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Wait, Diosa is black?
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That one is going to be around for quite awhile, isn’t it?
And I’m going to laugh every time someone brings it up, too.
[QUOTE=tomndebb]
It is possible that few, if any, patients would go out of their way to seek her out. That is a very different statement than that they would universally be bored or irritated to hear her, (the tin ears of geezers such as asterion and Mr Bus Guy notwithstanding).
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24 is the new geezerdom? I mean, I’ve heard of “don’t trust anyone over 30” (and boy, the boomers don’t like having that thrown back at them) but 24?
Oh, and she did do “Where Have All the Flowers Gone?” as well. That song sucks too.
Geezer is not an age, it is a state of mind.
Yours truly,
Old Coot
[QUOTE=asterion]
Oh, and she did do “Where Have All the Flowers Gone?” as well. That song sucks too.
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Where have all the geezers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the geezers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the geezers gone?
Off to CS to complain about what the young kids are listenin’ to these days.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
When will we ever learn?
[QUOTE=asterion]
24 is the new geezerdom? I mean, I’ve heard of “don’t trust anyone over 30” (and boy, the boomers don’t like having that thrown back at them) but 24?
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In Logan’s Run (the book, not the movie), it was 21.
Imagine trying to run a high-tech society with nobody over 21 . . .
[QUOTE=asterion]
Ok, in the interest of knowledge, I listened to some clips off iTunes. So, besides apparently doing a lot of crappy covers of everyone from the Beatles to Bob Dylan, and a lot of public domain songs, her own stuff sucks as well. Man, I’m going to have to clean my ears out with actual good music.
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Joan Baez doing Bob Dylan and Bob Dylan covers. Who wudda thunk? :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Bridget Burke]
It was a bit of a “leap” for Joan Baez to record “The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down.” As someone who’d marched down south, many of her comrades viewed all Southerners as racist creeps.
Of course, some Southerners were. (Some still are.) But that song (written by a Canadian) showed compassion for those who Lost The War. And demonstrated that history is complicated.
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What I thought was wrong is that she blew the lyrics. (So much cavalry?)
Speaking of out of it, did anyone see John Mellencamp filling in for Roger Ebert last week? Most clueless movie reviewer ever!
[QUOTE=Voyager]
Joan Baez doing Bob Dylan and Bob Dylan covers. Who wudda thunk? :rolleyes:
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I have no idea what this means. The covers still suck.