Since our regular Joan of Arcadia threadstarter Ivylass is unavailable this week, I’ll start the thread. I’m doing it kind of early, because I have to work all day, and I also watch Third Watch after JoA, so I won’t be back right away to comment.
From epguides.com I got this information: It’s called “Wealth of Nations” and the guest stars are Philip Marlatt as Roger (have we seen him before?) and Kimberly McCullough as Beth Rhinehart. Beth was Kevin’s girlfriend when he had his acicdent, right?
Semi-regulars Aaron Himelstein (Friedman) and Sprague Grayden (Judith) also appear.
Episode description: Gods tells Joan to help her mother collect clothes for the homeless; Kevin attempts stand-up comedy in order to impress Beth; Will wants to counter-sue the Bakers.
From the previews, we also saw Luke getting Grace to attend an Ala-Teen meeting.
New Gods appearing in this episode: East Indian Sunglass Guy God and Bad Stand-Up God.
Bad Stand-Up God? Now that sounds funny.
I missed the last fifteen minutes. Can anyone fill me in?
What I saw, I didn’t care for all that much… Joan overdosed on Adam Smith, Joan and Judith seriously misbehaved, Kevin got stalker-ish, and the police plot, well.
Very disappointing episode. It’s as if Joan doesn’t learn anything from week to week. Only good thing about the episode was the Grace/Luke Alateen part. Hope next week gets better, because this one stunk on ice.
I didn’t either. I didn’t get the whole “Let’s sell the one nice coat, buy five more cheap coats and split the profits” line of thinking. It seems like Joan would have been more like “Let’s sell the coat and use ALL the profits to buy more coats for the homeless.”
I didn’t like this weeks at all. I agree with** RikWriter**. Last week Joan realized her mistake before she caused any harm. Where as this week because of her mistake people quit giving clothes to the homeless. What was the lesson learned?
Annie Potts helped get some dirt on the people suing the Gerardis and gave it to Mr. G.
Luke convinced Grace to go to Alateen.
Kevin did some stand up comedy about his paralysis, accident, etc.
Joan and Judith got involved, at God’s behest, in a clothing drive for the homeless which Mom G. was also working on. Joan, in the throes of economics studies, thought that if they took the really good stuff to a thrift store and sold it for some good , they could buy even more stuff for the homeless. But they also used some to buy themselves belly rings. Then Mom G. found the beautiful red Italian leather jacket they sold and bought it herself. She found out later that a man’s wife had donated it for the homeless before she died, and he accused Mom G. of stealing it. She found out what Joan and Judith had done and really went off on them.
Ah, I was sort of “MEH” about this episode, especially the Joan parts of it. Disappointed that Joan didn’t seem to realize that pocketing profits from selling donated clothing to the vintage store was wrong, although her intentions were good in the first place. Actually, selling the donated clothing was wrong as well (IMO), and I totally called how that would pan out, leading my daughter to hollar at me, because I then went into rant mode at Joan & Judith. The scene at the end, though, where Joan had to take the laptop back from Adam brought tears to my eyes.
I’m so invested in the Luke/Grace relationship that I’m almost afraid to make comments on them. Almost. Luke is so caring and concerned for Grace, who hs been in coping mode for god knows how long–her mother’s alcoholism has totally shaped Grace’s personality, imho. Alateen is where she -needs- to be. And I don’t see this as Grace suddenly opening up about her Mom–she has very gradually come to trust Luke, and is now realizing that she can share with him, that he is willing to let her unburden to him. And she called him her boyfriend!!!
I liked Judith’s comment at the end that her parents would’ve made their wrongdoing all about them (the parents. Helen reamed Joan out and made her face the fact that she screwed up.
And a big “aawwwww” when Luke took Grace’s hand at the Alateen meeting. And her saying “this is my boyfriend”. Are SO’s really allowed to attend those meetings even if they don’t have a substance-abusing parent?
Yeah, I really didn’t like this episode that much either. In I think the very first episode, Mime God made a big point in explaining to Joan that what she does can have positive ripples in areas that she doesn’t even know about. So how upset can you be with her for trying to also look for those other connections in what she’s doing? While taking the extra money for herself was out and out wrong, I thought the reasoning behind the “sell clothes for a lot of money, and then use that money to buy more for the homeless” idea was just fine. After all, what’s better? A homeless person getting a strangly ugly red leather coat, or some practical warm clothes for several homeless people?
I liked Kevin’s sit-down comedy routine. I think it started out as a way to impress Beth, but then he found he liked it.
I loved Grace admitting that Luke was her boyfriend.
I don’t like Jo-Jo. It seems Judith is a bad influence on our Joan (throwing a party with the parents away, serving booze, almost using a blackmail photo to destroy a candidate, and stealing from the homeless to get belly rings.) I don’t think Joan would have done any of this stuff on her own.
Adam’s shock that Joan was stealing…that whole scence just cracked me up.
Friedman’s heavy breathing during Judith’s flirting was obscene in a funny way.
Poor Adam. He gets a computer, then loses it.
I’m glad Kevin is involved in the case now, and that the Girardi’s agreed to countersue. I liked Ex-Nun setting Helen straight…that there’s a fine line between compassion and martydom, and when it could adversely affect your family, it’s okay to fight back.
Helen going off on Joan in the vintage store…jeez, even I was scared of her. Her anger and disgust were magnificent.
The seeds for next week’s episode were sown this week…there was a throwaway bit about Judith hitting on Adam.
Thanks, Biblio,, for filling in for me. You’re the best!
The scene at the end, though, where Joan had to take the laptop back from Adam brought tears to my eyes.
Luke is so caring and concerned for Grace, who hs been in coping mode for god knows how long–her mother’s alcoholism has totally shaped Grace’s personality, imho. Alateen is where she -needs- to be. And I don’t see this as Grace suddenly opening up about her Mom–she has very gradually come to trust Luke, and is now realizing that she can share with him, that he is willing to let her unburden to him. And she called him her boyfriend!!!