Yes, indeed Reade’s story has been disproven. Altho she tried to be vague as to when and where so it couldnt be disproven, investigators have shown that her location is totally false, it could not possibly have happened in even her vague description of where.** Investigated and disproven.
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The GOP has paid women to make false rape claims. The Dems havent had anything even vaguely like that.
Dont worry, they will. Once the media has more or less dumped Reade- and that pretty much has happened- the GOP will put up another accuser. Maybe not rape, but something else. Swiftboating worked, they wont stop.
Trump is a admitted sexual abuser, and he brags about it. He* bragged* about “grabbing them by the pussy”. But the MAGA hat wearers still support him, they glorify in his tales of sexual assault. *You *are a trump voter?
Biden admitted he is a hugger- and not checking into seeing if those hugs, etc are wanted first. He has said he was wrong and has stopped. Hugging, even when unwanted, *is not anything at all like violent rape.
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Most women still don’t come forward, and when they do, their lives turn upside down. Only rarely does anything actually come of their allegations. Those rare incidents almost always make the news – we don’t hear about the great majority in which nothing happens except the woman’s life being upended.
While broadly true, there’s no evidence that this was the case here. Multiple staffers from that time expressed that Biden spent very little time with the junior staff and didn’t really know them. Much less enough about them to find the one who is “imperfect” enough that no one would believe her story three decades later.
Neither in Trump’s own words, nor in the accounts of his many accusers, is there any evidence that the women “consented.”
You appear to be making an argument along the lines of ‘if she doesn’t scream, then she is consenting’ or ‘if she doesn’t file charges immediately, then she consented.’
Is that appearance correct?—is that what you are arguing?
I am not sure what you were attempting, here, but a link to a Wikipedia page in Russian violates the SDMB protocol of only posting in English. That the same page appears in English with no reference to Anita Dunn, the person you identified as the target of your information, almost makes it look as though you were playing games with both the language and the citation.
I will hold off citing you as a troll, but you had better be very careful to avoid this sort of “confusion” in the future.
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The Cold War is over, but if you may have paid attention to news reports from the last several years, you might be aware that there is substantial evidence that Russia has been interfering with the election process of the U.S.
I will accept that your Noted post, above, may have been simply a typo, but you might want to double check any post you submit in the future to make sure that you have not accidentally cited a similar reference.
The comparison to Kavanaugh doesn’t make sense. That wasn’t a case of Ford going to the media and the media putting out a poorly vetted story. That allegation leaked from Diane Feinstein’s office. And there was no hard evidence Ford was lying (and no hard evidence she was telling the truth either.) A better comparison is the Katie Johnson allegation against Trump. She filed a lawsuit claiming Trump raped her when she was 13. There were so many red flags with the case, the media, including liberal outlets, mostly avoided covering it.
Yet the media covered the Reade allegations even though there were a ton of red flags. Reporters in Washington had to have known that the location where the assault supposedly happened had a lot of foot traffic, a heavy police presence, and even in 1993 a security camera system. They had to have known that Reade wouldn’t have been asked to serve drinks at a fundraiser because union workers did those jobs. 1993 was the height of the Bob Packwood scandal when even minor complaints were taken seriously, which should have raised serious doubts about a formal complaint being filed. Despite all this, the media mostly waited a whole month before addressing the problems with the allegation.
The media, including liberals, avoided an allegation against Trump because there were so many red flags, but that same media, including liberals, treated Biden as guilty until he was proven innocent. There were calls for Biden to withdraw and headlines like “Democrats, It’s Time to Consider a Plan B.” Why the different treatment for Trump and Biden with equally sketchy allegations?
I think the mainstream media basically ignored Reade for the first month because they took a quick look at it and realized it was a really flawed story and was pushed hard by The Intercept and other sketchy places on the intercept. Concurrently some of those pushing the story hardest were also pushing for Bernie to unsuspend his campaign and become the nominee.
But, the smoke got to be too much and some of the more mainstream blogs and commentators picked it up, too often waffling. ‘Something probably happened to make her feel uncomfortable’
But, then the Reade people overplayed their hand and getting it onto MSNBC was the beginning of the end. And, people who thought the story was sketchy from the get go did their probing and exposed Reade as someone who has an adult past full of lies, scams, half truths and manipulative behavior.
I do find it interesting that the Reade story starting getting pushed on Twitter right at the same time Bernie fired Sirota and Gray, his two most radical surrogates that had gone unhinged when Bernie suspended.
The Trump with the 13 year old was so sketchy that no one took it seriously and there was so much other material against Trump.
I agree that there is nothing odd about it, but for a different reason: By saying that, instead of the opposite alternative, something like “she should just shut up”, Biden looks reasonable and projects an air of innocence (or at least is trying to). Nothing more than that.
Reade being investigated by Monterey County for her role in expert testimony and they’ll perhaps subpoena her academic records. The article mentions perhaps only 3 quarters. I’m not sure how someone who only has 3 quarters could even fantasize about having graduated, it’s not similar to be in being one credit shy and having to take one last class. It’ll be real interesting to see what comes of her law school history as well.
