Joe Biden's in

Maybe Democratic voters are finally beginning to think more like Republicans: who the hell cares what the candidate says, just think about what he’ll do once he’s in office.

Biden is anything but a racist. :rolleyes:

And black voters didnt vote for trump.

Name three.

I would happily vote for Joe if he’s the nominee. I think he’s a good guy who means well and has generally done a lot more good than negative. But it’s only the negatives being pointed out and a lot of these are being dissected from his left.

Trump and the MAGA people will go after everyone shamelessly. These are the people who spun racist “send her back” rhetoric to making out they are the victims and the democrats are the racists. Whoever is the nominee needs to be prepared for despicable attacks on themselves and their family. My worry is he will be battered and bruised by the time he needs to get in general election mode.

I question the assumptions implicit here. First, I don’t know how many Democrats have ‘a return to normalcy’ as their main goal or as any goal at all, really. Normalcy is gone—if it ever existed. It’s a phantom.

Second, ‘now what?’ after Trump is gone is not causing anyone any angst that I can see. It’s a non-issue. Getting rid of Trump is progress in and of itself. The give-and-take, back-and-forth of the political process will go forward once we’ve defeated the monarchist fraction of the population, and reaffirmed our commitment to the Constitution.

I feel as though the sentiments expressed in your post represent a sort of flailing-about to turn Biden into some sort of existential problem; I can’t see that effort succeeding. Biden is a candidate who may have the best chance of defeating Trump; at this moment of danger, more than that we do not require.

We can dissect Biden’s flaws, as well as Trump’s flaws to death. In the end, the incumbent always, always, always has a massive advantage over the challenger, even if he’s not that popular, and even when the voters aren’t entirely convinced he’s doing a good job. When voting for/against a 1st-term president, voters ask two simple questions: Am I okay? And are things so bad that we can’t wait another 4 years to fix them? People are afraid to change. Why would they change when they know things will change in 4 years anyway? That’s the thought process. Voters have to think that things are so fucked up we can’t wait another 4 years.

:confused: Did I somehow imply black voters voted for Trump?

I agree about “old”, but we actually need to convey that white men have not become ineligible for the Democratic presidential nomination, or we are going to be in political trouble.

I can’t narrow it down to just three, although it’s tempting to be cute and say three B’s (Booker, Beto, Bullock). Inslee is too strong to leave out.

Bullock, Booker and Beto.

I want Biden to drop out and endorse Steve Bullock. I know it won’t happen for many reasons, but that’s my happy place.

You say they vote for “racist white candidates”. I know of only one who is a candidate- trump.

Thus, yes, that is exactly what you said. Unless you are implying that Biden or Bill Clinton are racists- which would be a total falsehood.

I have never even heard of Bullock. Booker has gone off the deep end with crazy radical gun control plans, and reparations. Beto is a strong possibility.

Bullock won the MT governor’s race at the same time Trump was winning the state by 20 points. Yet he is not a Joe Manchin conserva-Dem type. He is actually reasonably progressive. But he has a very “common man” way of talking without actually sounding stupid. You should check him out.

Biden and Sanders were going to play a major role in this campaign, regardless.

Six months ago, it was far from clear that Warren would. She was able to break through, others weren’t.

I think part of the problem is the sheer number of candidates running. Outside of a handful of political junkies, nobody’s got the time or energy or even interest in sorting through the twenty candidates who are polling in the lower single digits, and seeing if any of them are worth a look. Reports from Iowa suggest that many natives of that state actively resent the size of the horde and wish they’d GTFO. I think Klobuchar or Booker or Inslee or Hickenlooper might get a closer look from a larger group of people if there were only 8-10 candidates of note, rather than >20.

I did, he seems Ok, but he did poorly in the debate, and honestly no one knows who he is. Also, he hasnt been vetted like Biden and Warren.

barring a big problem I don’t see Biden dropping out before the first month or so of primaries. He’s got plenty of money to stay in.

That’s oddly inspiring, in a way.

Regards,
Shodan

I want to believe Beto’s a possibility, but he’s just not.

Maybe you didn’t like his debate performance, but you say that like this was the consensus opinion among pundits, and it’s not what I saw at all:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455475-5-takeaways-from-democratic-debate-slugfest

David Gergen:

Patti Solis Doyle:

Paul Begala:

Now Biden says he was vice president during the Parkland shooting (which happened in 2018):

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-says-vice-president-during-205412800.html

My dream ticket would be Bullock & Buttegieg. The oft-cited front runners are carrying just as much baggage as Hillary did and will end up playing defense to the far right slime machine. I wish “Uncle Joe” would do the responsible thing and disappear.

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