Joe Biden's in

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And the thing people really have to remember is that he doesn’t get suspended in amber as he is now. We should not nominate anyone who cannot possibly serve two terms, and that means he has to be up to the pressure through eight years of a very demanding job (assuming he doesn’t neglect his duties like Trump or Reagan), a job that turned his young predecessor’s hair white, until 2029, when he is pushing 90! :eek:

Voters told pollsters last year that “over 75” was too old to run for president. But the plurality of Democratic primary voters somehow did not get that memo. I wish this had just been a more obvious social norm to begin with, so no one would take seriously the idea of Bernie or Joe running.

Obviously there is a huge pot/kettle quotient here. But it would be better not to even have to get into that argument.

This is one gaffe that Trump will be happy to pass on.

Parkland? No, no that wasn’t under me. That was under Obama and Biden.

Actually it turns out he did meet people from Parkland so that was true. He was no longer VP but he met them. One of the parents of a victim spoke about it in April:

Not sure it’s much better if he doesn’t remember when he was VP.

Of course it’s not good. Though I’m not seeing how Trump can make hay over Biden misspeaking or getting facts wrong. Trump’s got a teensy bit of vulnerability on that score.

We’d prefer a candidate who never makes errors.

But how much of the GOP’s work do we want to be doing, when it comes to obsessing over errors and gaffes?

Of course he remembers, dont be ridiculous… He just confused meeting with two similar groups, one during and one after.

It’s weird that you and I are so far apart on the relative merits of the major candidates but we both really like Inslee. Yet, somehow, nobody else does.

Yeah, it’s weird. Voters of both parties SAY they don’t want anyone over 70. And yet…

It’s especially weird with the Democrats, since old Democrats don’t win elections. Period.

OTOH, voters weren’t impressed.

538 shows national polls by eight different pollsters since the last round of debates. I looked at the most recent polls by all eight. YouGov and Morning Consult have Bullock at 1%, and the other six have him at 0%.

Go back to Montana, Gov. Bullock. Run for Senate. Show us again how you can win in a red state.

Meanwhile, back to Biden, Politico’s got an article examining Biden’s concerns with Latino voters, or more accurately, the Latino voters’ concerns about Biden. This is bad, because if Biden is seen as racing to the middle when it comes to immigration, that could depress the Latino vote.

Meanwhile…

Why yes, if you’re constantly saying stupid shit that makes you look like you have mental problems typical of people your age, people will take notice.

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Biden is not a good candidate.

At first I thought Biden was just kind of a “Meh, is this the best we got?” kinda candidate. But the more I see him, the more I see the coverage of him, the more convinced I am that he’s a slow-moving disaster. I just don’t know who else the Democrats have right now that stands out as an obvious winner. I’d like to see Kamala Harris’ or Corey Booker’s standing improve, but they both have a lot of work to do and Corey just seems to be a candidate who’s really going to be viscerally unappealing to rural white America.

I mean… there is a consistent second place in the polls, and he polls extremely well against Trump…

Warren is a “she”.

Abrams announced, correctly, that she’s not running. But she put it out there that she is interested in the VP slot… and I think she would be excellent in that role for the reasons that Asahi listed a couple (or more, I thought I read it somewhere) of posts above: she’s a highly respected minority candidate who would bring out the voters in droves.

I meant Sanders; Warren would absolutely also be preferable to Biden. So would most of the rest of the candidates in the running.

I know, just jokin’ with you. :slight_smile:

She’s also a failed candidate for governor in a blue-wave year. She has the national credentials of O’Rourke at this point - let them each be elected Governor or Senator and we can talk then.