John Ashcroft/Jonathan Turley

One of the current stories making the rounds is the one that attributes Attorney General John Ashcroft with wanting to bring back internment camps for US citizens. The piece, written by Jonathan Turley and published in the Aug. 14 L.A. Times, makes reference to Ashcrofts views on the subject, but in checking the usual sources (Urban Legends, Google, etc., etc., ) I can see only references to Turley’s article itself, not the truth or fiction of whether Ashcroft really said what Turley has attributed to him. Can anyone shed some light on this important issue?

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Ken Merena

Since I posted this question and never got a reply, I have had much time to examine the issue. Time has told us that it was a bogus claim and over the intervening years, I have also learned that most of the hysteria that we see on this score----------------- is just uninformed internet speculation. The lunatic fringe has revived this issue and are claiming that the internment camps are a reality today based on the introduction of HB 645 in the previous congress. The bill was never passed out of committee and yet they rant about it as if the camps are just waiting for civil unrest to develop before Obama puts them into use.
Kenneth A. Merena

I wasn’t exactly a fan of Ashcroft as Attorney General, but givenhis reaction to the domestic surveilance plan I wouldn’t jump on the lunatic fringe bandwagon, either.

I agree with you, Kunilou. When Ashcroft was in office, I thought he was the worst AG since John Mitchell, but then along came Gonzales and he was even worse. Now we have Eric Holder and he’s the worst of the lot. Glad I moved out of the country.

Kenneth Merena

From the Alaska Mental Health bill of 1956 to the closed military bases of the past two decades, the fringes of Left & Right have been claiming that the Powers That Be are just a step away from shipping dissidents to the camps. Some are supposedly being fitted up with mass gas chambers & even guillotines. Oh boy!

Nine years & you never found anything else on the SDMB worth discussing? Wow!

He was busy packing, apparently. :rolleyes:

Gee, Friar Ted, why would it bother you what anyone wanted to discuss on any blog? Are you just one of those busy bodies that needs to meddle into everybody’s business? If you don’t like anything posted, why not just ignore it?

Kenneth Merena

If you didn’t want it discussed, why did you post your question on a discussion board?

Telemark, I believe you may have misunderstood, if your comment was directed at me. I’m happy with anyone discussing any aspect of my original question or any of the subsequent comments, including Friar Ted’s comments.

Kenneth Merena

Does anybody have an opinion as to whether Holder knew about fast and furious prior to his claimed date of knowledge?

Kenneth Merena

The tenor of this thread having changed, let’s move it from GQ to IMHO.

samclem, Moderator

Making jokes about zombie threads is deeply ingrained in SDMB culture. Don’t take it personally.

SamClem, I’m confused about your wishes as moderator. Please explain what you would have me do.

Kenneth Merena

John Mace,

I’m equaly confused about your posting. Could you explain what you mean? What is SDMB culture?

Kenneth Merena

I doubt I could define the term “culture” better than a dictionary.

As for your question to the moderator, your post #4 was a political opinion, which is frowned upon in GQ. GQ is a place for discussion of facts, not opinions. Also, if you’re unfamiliar with the rules, questions about moderator actions are only allowed in ATMB.

John Mace. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. I can tolerate the frowns you refer to with no problem. Most people are too hung up on ceremony anyway and I doubt my transgressions will be earth shattering.

Kenneth Merena

I don’t quite know how to create a new thread to address this, but even here it seems apropos because it is yet another example of the apathy of the citizenry and a government agency run wild. A friend sent me this link:
http://www.unelected.org/audit-of-the-federal-reserve-reveals-16-trillion-in-secret-bailouts

The article purports to show that the Fed, under Bernanke, bailed out not only U.S. banks, but foreign banks as well, for a total of 16.5 Trillion dollars, with absolutely no accountability to anyone. I have tried to check this story on all the usual debunking sites to no avail. Does anybody have any insight into this?

Kenneth Merena

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