John Boehner and Obama too

Not just someone, President of the United States. And not unannounced. His intent has been well known for some time.

Feeling like voting Republican in '12? Heck, in that case Obama is your best bet. You’ll never see a more competent Republican than him- he seems to give them just about everything they want.

I don’t know what Obama has in mind with all his caving. In a lot of cases the issues seem fairly trivial- I didn’t even know there was a new rule in the pipe for ozone levels, and the people who live in places with a lot of fog are screwed already, so if the rules really would cost jobs (and pubbies threaten that EVERY policy will cost jobs) then they’d be screwed plus unemployed. Obama does his job and hears the other side, it is just too bad that the other side is basically bonkers and he pretends not to notice.

I’ll let it all go if Obama takes a stand on the big issues. Tax policy for the wealthy simply must change- as it stands the policies are a version of regulatory capture a la the MMS. We gotta get people back to work. We need to change how we generate power. Most other issues are a bunch of blah blah blah by comparison.

They’re bickering over the date of the speech? Makes the GOP look like children once again, unless you are an Obama hater, in which I suppose it makes them look cool. Next!

You want him to just show up.

And I’m not Speaker of the House. Make it the mayor of my town and posit that I’m politically aligned with his rival, and you’re damn sure I’ll tell him “no”.

They are trying to make Obama the new Jimmy Carter, the guy everybody agrees was terrible but nobody can tell you why. The people who provide the money that makes the illusion of Republican parity possible have buttloads of money, they will still have buttloads of money no matter what happens to you and me. So why should they care what happens to you and me? Especially if it turns out to be a stern lesson for us, so that we aren’t so uppity and demanding.

This maybe one of the last Labor Day weekends we have. It will be Job Creators Day, and we will all work a day for free, donating our wages for the wedding of the Princess of BoA and the youngest son of the Duke of General Electric.

Bad choice of corporations. If GE has a Duke, it’ll be because Obama made its CEO (and CotB, btw) his Jobs Czar.

To be held in the Duchy of ExxonMobil, I’m guessing.

I own stock in all three companies mentioned in the above post+quote. :stuck_out_tongue:

I only own stock in one of them. Three is beyond the pale, sir.

I’m guessing that all three of them, then, would constitute the axis of corporate evil.

I once bought a pair of tennies that had been sewn together by child labor. Got them at the Goodwill, so I’m hoping that de-toxifies the karma some. Anyway, when you guys get to Hell, save a nice spot in the shade. Be along directly.

Yeah, well, what can I say. 4Q 2008 through 2Q 2009 was a really great time to buy a lot of stocks. It might be another 20 years before we see such valuations again.

Remember: you make money when you buy, not when you sell. :slight_smile:

I’m being facetious. After Socialism comes to America we can all sell our stocks and be free from the horrors of overwork through the shared ownership of the means of production. Until then, dividends are probably our best bet.

Yah, 2008-2009 was a great time to buy. Also, there is right this minute.

True, there are still bargains out there. Bank of America is one: I bought a 1,000 shares a couple of weeks ago @ $6.87. A week later, Warren Buffet buys $5 billion of it. Of course, my shares don’t pay me 6% interest, but I like the vote of confidence anyway.

I just don’t invest in banks, on principle I guess. Maybe I’m a hypocrite though- it was hard not to notice that the price of GE stock dropped about 1/3 after the moronic debt-ceiling debacle. This after they just managed to pay zero taxes on $14 billion in profits- sure seems like a company that can rebound to me. And they build wind turbines!!! And if their future dividends behave like they did over the last 3 decades, there is reason to expect 6% or better returns if you just sit on it for a couple of years. I am not a professional investor however, beware…