Some perspective here from my dad who is a baby boomer. He loved these books, as a kid, and devoured them, but they were what they were, cheesy kids books. Adjust your expectations accordingly.
Nope, the trailer’s “branding” shows the Disneyland castle.
As well it should, because it comes from a children’s source, not adult.
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I don’t believe it was a “children’s” souce.
The books were originally written for young boys. Maybe not children, as in 4-6 year olds, and more in the 9-14 year old bracket, but for (older) children nonetheless. I think Disney has it right, but I’m not so sure people are going to be happy as they appear to have different expectations.
Then there are those who are thinking it’s going to be some kind of steam punk type of movie.
Handwave it however you like. The original books had the original Martians strutting around in nothing but leather harnesses. Deal.
I so want this to be a great movie and I’d been greatly enthused by the concept art I’d seen for this. The trailer however I found flat and uninspiring. Now I’m worried.
I’ve always thought of them aspulp fiction, of the same genre as Robert E. Howard.
Exactly. They were never YA novels, nor will they ever be YA novels. They are and ever shall be pulp without end.
What, like there’s some difference?!
Aside from the fact that Conan could kick John Carter’s ass, not much.
Doubtful. See post #32. Carter is a god. Possibly Mars Himself.
Carter is a Civil War veteran. Conan would have the same “light gravity” advantages on Mars.
And I’ve never seen Carter kick Elder god ass. 
Second book in the series, or maybe third. The Gods of Mars.
And he’s a Civil War veteran who’s been “about thirty” for centuries, is a master of both telepathy and blocking telepathy, and has excelled and been undefeated in every form of combat he’s ever attempted, which is pretty much all of them.
Conan would be toast in about 3 minutes. As noted, Carter is quite possibly the living incarnation of Mars. You don’t mess with something like that.
Yes, and who do you think was the primary consumer of Pulp novels?
Male YA, my dad and his friends were reading that stuff before they hit 10, actually.
We’re talking about the first half of the 20th century here. No computers, tvs with 200 channels, no video game consoles etc.
Handwave? What is that? Some kind of lame projection. Listen, you got a dismissive attitude (handwave it) towards movies for a younger audience, don’t project it onto me.
I don’t have a problem with John Carter being for a younger audience, I quite clearly stated that if people are expecting an adult movie, perhaps by your reference to leather harnesses, a Heavy Metal type adult movie, then you will probably be disappointed.
Where the hell did you get an attack on the film itself by me?
I am sure I will be disappointed, the trailer clearly shows they will not be following through with Burroughs’ text descriptions of the Martians, but I think it’s important to point out that that is what they are doing. Your post seemed to me to imply that because the books were, in your opinion, written for younger audience, it justified them not following through. I personally think the pulps got away with a lot of adult stuff because as a general rule, parents are pleased to see their kids reading ANYTHING. Hell, Conan sleeps with dancing girls and slavegirls and such in Howard’s novels, and the Gor novels, CLEARLY for mature audiences, often got shelved in juvenile sections … hell, I spotted a copy of “Dancer of Gor” in the juvenile section of a local public library a few … well, quite a few … years ago.
So if you were not trying to JUSTIFY Disney not following Burrough’s intent on Martian dress codes with your statement, I apologize: I thought you were trying to do that. If you were only pointing out that Disney is unlikely to follow Burroughs’ lead, well, I knew that. I still think they are doing wrong.
That was just about the Green Guys going somewhere to die and be with their gods. I seem to recall Tars Tarkas faith being shaken when he found out they were regular guys. I’ll have to read Burroughs again to be able to discuss it with you.
:eek: Grownups! Just grownups! Not me, Pop! Honest! I heard what you said! I wouldn’t read one of them things even out behind the corncrib where we smoke! Oh, criminently . . .