Dude…what HAPPENED to you? I used to respect you, sort of. I kind of bought into that “Maveric” shit for awhile and I liked that you were one of the only prominant Senators from either party who was willing to talk about campaign finance reform. I did and still do respect your service and what you went through at the Hanoi Hilton buys you a lot of slack from me, but dude…Creationism? Either you’re a total numbskull (which I don’t believe), or you simply lack any sense of embarrassment or shame. Either way, it’s almost impossible for me to take you seriously anymore.
He’s run to the right so fast he broke the sound barrier. And all it’s cost him so far is any shred of dignity he once had. Only 18 months 'til the election…
Sadly, I think McCain has been full of shit all along, and has simply gotten much worse at hiding it—or just stopped trying.
David Foster Wallace wrote an interesting essay called “Up, Simba!” (originally published in Rolling Stone, also included in a book titled Consider the Lobster: And Other Essays) about a week he spent following McCain’s presidential campaign in 2000. He talks of that very thing—McCain’s “maverick” image, and the allure of believing in a political figure who appears to tell it like it is—but also describes events that suggested, even then, that things were not quite as they seemed.
That McCain was able (for a time) to garner an unusual level of support, or at least interest, from many who would oppose most of his stated positions is somewhat remarkable, but in the end he seems to be just another opportunistic politico.
Well, you have to notice that these are the Intelligent Design people, they are officially not creationists, but even in the latest case law the judge found that there is very little difference. So, not as dumb as creationists, but not by much really.
To whom do you think McCain is listening, in this case or in general?
Who knows, he may use his keynote speaker address to affirm his belief that intelligent design is not a scientific theory and therefore should not be presented as science, but that seems doubtful. I would also be surprised to see him headline at a Klan rally in order to promote racial tolerance.
As Jon Stewart observed, it seems the “Straight Talk Express” has been rerouted through Bullshit Town.
Heck I’m going to defend John McCain.
I don’t think for a minute he believes in the whacko creationist, “intelligent design squad” bullshit. Doesn’t anyone remember the 2000 election? McCain got off to a very strong start in the primaries as the Republican nominee. So, what happened then? “Dubya” started visiting the whacko nut-job conservative places (remember his visit to Bob Jones University?). Then “Dubya” pursued his bullshit “good old boy” persona and got elected president. :mad:
I’d be amazed if John McCain believes any of that bullshit. I think he realizes it’s the kind of shit he’ll have to sling if he wants to get elected President in 2008. (which is what should have happened in 2000) :mad:
Anyone else think John McCain was royally screwed when “Dubya” started playing the “good old boy” character? And of course this all preceded the Al Gore screwjob that would transpire in the next few months of 2000.
I suppose from my posting, some people might get an inkling of a hint that I have not been too happy with the election and re-election of Dubya. Well, yeah. :mad:
Why are you stealing my thoughts!?!? I feel the exact same way, or at least felt. I used to think of McCain as the “Republican that isn’t afraid to admit things that are obvious”. When he “suckled Bush’s teat”, I gave him a pass and reasoned that it would have been political suicide to not support the 'pubbie party at that point.
How far he has fallen…
First he pissed of Republicans by being defiant and a “rogue”, then he pisses off Dems by gladly accepting the puppetmaster’s hand up his ass (or were those his true feelings to begin with?) Either way, he has lost the credibility he once had in the eyes of both parties. The Republicans could justifiably call him a flip-flopper, and the Democrats could justifiably call him a stupid dipshit for being a keynote speaker at a retard convention. (no offense to retarded people intended)
There are three types of people in the world. Those that believe that the world was created by, and consists of, a series of scientifically explainable chemical reactions. There are those that believe that a higher power, “God” or an “intelligent designer”, created man via a logical process that some refer to as “evolution”. There are also those that believe that the universe was created in seven days and that man just appeared on Earth. They believe that a book, written by men, is meant to be taken literally, and that questioning such scriptures is frowned upon.
The preceding paragraph was not intended to offend anyone, and I’m sure someone will find flaws with it, holes in my reasoning, what have you. I just cannot imagine how a person can say that the concept of evolution is wrong based on something written in a book of metaphors. I have no problems believing that there is a God, I also have no reason to believe that there must be a God. Why is it so hard for people that believe in God unconditionally, to believe that he/she used evolution as a device to modify or refine existing life forms?