"Johnny Pump": Brooklyn-ese?

Thanks to all those who explained and translated “ring-o-levieo” for this “country boy” from “hicksville” in this forum.

Until recently, I was unaware that by not growing up in Brooklyn NYC, I had a deprived childhood (there were less than 75 kids of my age on my block --the horror!) and as a result I have seriously underdeveloped language skills.

The question is this: I just lately found out that another term for a “fire hydrant” (a.k.a. “fire plug”) apparently is a “johnny plug” --at least in Brooklyn. How widespread is this term? Is it, like ring-o-levieo, Brooklyn-ese only?

All I can say is that I never recall hearing that term when I was a kid in the northeast Bronx. We mostly called 'em hydrants.

As a native of Brooklyn I can attest that “Johnny pump” is a common phrase in that borough (my mom certainly uses it all the time.)

I’m not familiar with the street games thread you referred to in the OP (and I’m not going to look for it – the board is glacial today) but perhaps someone there mentioned the once-common Brooklyn/NYC game “Johnny on the pony.” JOTP requires that the “pillow man” be anchored to (i.e. leaning against) a wall, tree, post, etc. Fire hydrants were always good choices because, unlike most curbside trees, they were not blocked by parked cars. That is why, I suspect, hydrants came to be called Johnny pumps. Just my theory of course. (Maybe I’ll do some real research if I have some free time later today.)

In the Bronx ,when I was a child 45+ years ago , we had only one word for what we now call “hydrant” . That word was “Johnny-pump”. I was in my early teens by the time I had first heard the word “hydrant”.

Johnny on the Pony was mentioned in the original explanation to me of why they are called Johnny Pumps, but my fiance is not sure if the pumps are named for the game or the game is named for the pumps.

FWIW, I grew up in CA knowing they were properly called fire hydrants, but normally called fire plugs.

FWIW, I just remembered that “Johnny on the pony” was also called “buck buck” by some players. Go figger.

When I was a tyke running around in the 1970s in the Bronx, “hydrant” was the word to use. I never heard the expression “Johnny pump,” or played “Johnny on the pony.” (I did play ring-o-levio, though.)

Colibri, where were you? I’m a Woodlawn gal, myself.

Born an bred 29 years in Brooklyn, always called 'em hydrants.

Westchester Square, a bit north of Parkchester, a mostly Irish/Italian neighborhood. I grew up in the area in the 50s.

Incidentally, I knew of the game called Johnny-on-the-pony, but I can’t recall we every played it. We mostly either played stickball, stoopball, or “guns” (cowboys ‘n’ Indians/cops ‘n’ robbers/GIs and Germans).

Okay, I got sick of watching this thread pop up every few hours so I went to the NYC Encyclopedia, under Street Games, to see what they had to say. Not too much new to add I’m afraid, but at least it confirmed some previous posts:

"Johnny on the pony, traceable to ancient Greece and known as “buck buck” in other cities, may have been named for the fire hydrant, locally known as the “Johnny pump.” [It then describes the how the game is played.]

Born in 1959 i only knew of a Johnny Pump…not a fire hydrant, one of the best things I remember growing up in Brooklyn

My wife grew up in the Sheepshead Bay area of Brooklyn and never heard the term. Growing up in Philly, I always called them fire plugs.

Born in 1963, grew up in Queens and I knew what a johnny pump was

Given that this thread is 12 years old, I’m going to close it.

Colibri
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