Meh. Fox News anchors regularly provide much bigger feasts than these meager tweets.
But the Daily Show does focus on talking about blunders made by public figures. You do need a certain moral ground.
And media outrage is indeed dangerous if not handled properly. Ask Brian Williams.
Not sure if this is a uniquely South African thing, but the kugel stereotype is basically what the airhead blonde stereotype is elsewhere - brainless,neurotic, materialistic, and the subject of such jokes as “Why did the kugel smile at her wedding? Because she knew she’d given her last blowjob” - this falls under that heading - lame, sexist, dated stereotyping but not antisemitic as such - it’s not the woman’s Jewishness that is the butt of the joke, it’s “young Jewish woman” as a social group and stereotype - I believe the US equivalent of a kugel would be a Jewish American Princess. Note the disinterest in sex is particularly characteristic there too.
The way some people are reacting, you’d think this guy was being proposed for a cabinet post or a seat on the Supreme Court. He’s a comic getting a job as a comic. Granted, it’s a job that has a certain aura about it, but in the grand scheme of things, he tries to make people laugh.
As such, the reaction/overreaction seems just a tad silly. Those who think he’s a sexist ass can avoid him. If he can’t pull in the ratings, he’ll be fired. In any case, no one anywhere is forced to even notice his existence.
Frankly, I think Howard Stern is among highly offensive public figures and he’s still around. I have chosen to avoid his broadcasts, and his existence doesn’t affect me at all. But maybe I’m an anomaly.
There’s no way that Noah doesn’t get the job. If Noah gets too edgy as host of the Daily Show, then he might be out. But there’s not going to be a successful public campaign to remove him. And even if it succeeded, you’d be “rewarded” with someone like Carrot Top, who would at least be safe.
Maher has been a TON more offensive. I realize that Comedy Central isn’t HBO, but strong enough public campaigns can ruin anyone and even Maher has his limits(if he said something racist, he’d disappear and never be heard from again).
I’m with you. Howard Stern appealed to me when I was 11, so I listened to him. He doesn’t appeal to me when I’m in my 30s, so I don’t.
I never considered that I should campaign to have him removed from the airwaves, so that no one could listen to him.
It’s all right to just say, “This isn’t for me.” Most things aren’t.
Yeah, that was only part of the culture when it was right-wingers trying to censor. “If you don’t like it, don’t watch it!” Obviously, that wasn’t a sincerely held principle given how easily people get removed from the air these days for saying naughty things.
He’s a comedian hosting a comedy show not a supposed Journalist hosting a News show. The two situations are not the same.
The Giant Fire Salp is an incredible deep sea worm, sometimes reaching lengths of 60 feet or more. Part of what makes it so fascinating is that each worm isn’t a single creature, but rather is a colony of thousands of smaller creatures working in tandem to move, eat, and, presumably, engage in media criticism. If a giant fire salp appears to hold contradictory political principles based on whether its criticism is direct at liberals or conservatives, it’s appropriate to question its sincerity: even though thousands of individuals make it up, they act in unison in everything they do.
Liberals are not a giant fire salp.
When I see the left rise up to defend people who get fired for politically incorrect statements like they did movies and shows targeted by the religious right, I’ll concede your point.
I think Jim Jefferies’ standup is hilarious and he’s a quick wit as a podcast guest, so I can imagine him doing a decent job as a show host.
That said, Dick Cheney has a better chance of landing the Daily Show gig than he does. Jeffries has said things that make Noah’s tweets seem like Hee Haw jokes.
I don’t know about that. If TDS made a meal of every stupid tweet that every Fox News Anchor or other news pundit made, that’s all the would be. It would no longer be The Daily Show, it would be the Twitter Review Show.
They would make a meal of it if the tweets showed hypocrisy or something like that by the anchor. Like if a Fox News Anchor done one of the following things:[ul]
[li]Attacked a liberal who had fat shamed some women[/li][li]Accused someone of anti-Semitism for weak reasons[/li][li]Dismissed someone for being unfunny[/li][/ul]
Then TDS could use those tweets and go after the anchor a bit, but even then I don’t think it would be a full meal, it would be a quick bit and then on to something else.
I’m not that familiar with Noah, other than the few times he’s been on TDS. I think this article sums up my feelings on the tweets:
They are stupid, unfunny, somewhat offensive jokes. From what I gathered, they aren’t a majority of his thing. If he does stupid jokes like that on The Daily Show, I will be unhappy and not watch, but it seems he’s grown as a comedian and will have better jokes than that. And of course will have writers he’s working with.
My biggest problem with Noah is that he just doesn’t seem very funny. His jokes are all pretty lame and dull-witted. I can’t see him adjusting on the fly and offering us the sort of spontaneous insights in interviews to which we have become accustomed from Stewart and Colbert. I predict disaster. (Though I certainly hope to be proven wrong.)
Was Stewart really all that funny either in standup or his previous roles? I’m not sure Noah’s current funny factor tells us much about how good he’ll be as host of the Daily Show. IT’s not a laugh out loud hilarity-fest anyway IMO. It’s more of an insightful show with a few chuckles. Think of it like Al Franken’s book The Truth(With Jokes). The Truth is first, the Jokes are just the icing on the cake.
I find Jessica Williams to only be OK.
Stewart was OK. I was never a huge fan before he took over the Daily Show. I figured he’d be there 2-3 years or so. Boy, was I wrong.
Same here. And I thought Colbert’s schtick would run dry in about six weeks. I was wrong on both.
I wasn’t exactly blown away by his appearances on TDS, he was funny, but seemed to be fairly green. But I’m guessing the producers have seen a lot more of his material, and done test shows with him. I don’t know if he’ll be amazing, but I would be very surprised if it was a disaster.
Right, Stewart wasn’t known as a great comic before he was on TDS. I mainly knew him from him being in the movie The Faculty, where he was fine, but it wasn’t exactly a sign of how he was going to be a big star.
But also things have changed since then. Someone taking over Craig Kilborn’s show in 1999 was a news story, but a fairly minor one. But someone taking over Jon Stewart’s show now is a much bigger story, so he has much more scrutiny. I don’t remember people in 1999 thinking that Jon Stewart was a great choice or a terrible choice or whatever, because people didn’t really care as much then.
Anyone ever see Colbert’s appearance on Whose Line Is It? That was pretty hilarious, I thought. But yeah, on the Daily Show he was just another correspondent. I’ve never actually thought any correspondents on the show have really stood out, but when they get other opportunities they seem to excel. Even guys like Rob Corrdry and Ed Helms, despite not being superstars, I still enjoy them in their movie roles.
Patton Oswalt, obviously, had a pretty good take on it.
I like Patton Oswalt, but he could have written that joke 2 weeks ago as a jab at " political correctness". Not sure the same people would have appreciated the joke in that case.