Jr. High kids (and teens in general) are the most worthless human beings on the Earth

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So there I was sitting in the theater with Joe Schmo and a mutual friend of ours, waiting to see Drumline. This group of 7-8 black people sits down in front of us. A particularly talkative girl turns around and says hello, then chats friendly (just about 98% of the talking on her end) for about a minute. Then, out of the frickin’ blue, she looks at us and asks “so, are any of you gay?” Mind…breaking down…with bewilderment. This black chick knew us for a total of 60 seconds or so, and she asks that?

Why, you ask? Because she thinks we might be a gay threesome? Oh no. She was just getting that out of the way, making sure none of us were gay, so she could launch into a minute long speech about how much she doesn’t like gay people. Now this girl was not bright. She was not well-spoken, she did not appear to have some religious motivation or any sort of organized and well-formulated idea on the subject. She was the typical black girl, ditzy airhead to the core, whether of her own nature or through socialization. She just wanted to tell us how much she didn’t like gay people. Considering her mannerisms and readily apparent lack of general intelligence, this was quite possibly the most complex thought in her reportoire of topics.

And why precisely did she feel the need to say this loudly, enabling everyone in the small discount theater (which was packed) to hear her opinions? And what the heck made her think we would be interested? Does the black girl have some stupid drive that makes it exciting to talk to guys in their 20’s about sexuality, like they’re getting away with something? Can someone not just inform them that they sound like morons?

It’s been awhile since I was around black people. I had almost forgotten what a waste of oxygen they are. Another thread proposes that the rise of racist posts coincides with the time when blacks increase their numbers on the board. Looks like a good hypothesis to me. From some girl getting a kick out of loudly discussing her opinions on sexuality and “ickiness”, to some guy trying to look manly in front of his pals by lavishing insults on the most opportune target, this is a segment of society that needs to be locked away somewhere until they know how to frickin’ behave themselves.
RexDart, compare this to your OP. Now please explain why you are not a fucking moron.

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Was is a teen?,cause they’re fuckin’ morons sometimes…

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Sorry to revive this after a day, but I want to respond to gex gex.

Suppose you meet some black person during the course of your day. This particular person is a real obnoxious jerk and his behaviour pisses you off. His jerkish behaviour has nothing to do with his being black.

The particular sort of behaviour I was complaining about has everything to do with this person being a teen. Teens do have far less experience with social skills than do the rest of us, and they do behave inappropriately for precisely this reason. Some teens learn these skills quicker than others, some never learn them at all and become obnoxious adults. But the fact remains that the behaviour that drew my ire had everything to do with the fact that the person in question was a teen. This is differentiated from racial distinctions, because there is no particular obnoxious behaviour caused by being of a particular race. Being a teen, and therefore socially unskilled and prone to making inappropriate statements, was the cause of the behaviour, and thus a clear distinction.

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RexDart, I know many discerning people have jumped on you in this thread. I read their posts. And all I can think is; “They obviously have seperated themselves from their own adolescences.”

When I was in Grade 7 and 8, I was surrounded by children who were incessantly cruel, wanton, and would betray anyone at a whim.
These kids thought nothing of torturing their peers. They were obsessed with wielding whatever advantages they had (athletic prowess, looks, brand name clothing) over the have-nots. They were savage and intolerant. They were not in the least interested in opening their minds, becoming more tolerant or being compassionate. They reveled in their little dog-eat-dog Inferno. They were animals.
If something was stupid or bad; it was “gay”. So being gay was seen as stupid and bad.

In other words: I know exactly what you meant in you OP.

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Thank you, kung fu lola… and I know exactly what you mean by relating your experiences in middle school, right down to the use of “gay” as a generic epithet. I had the exact same feeling about that age group every time I look back on it.

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See, that’s the thing. Teen are not “socially unskilled.” Some teens are. Therefore, some teens are perfectly skilled. That is the important distinction.

By claiming that all teens are idiotic neanderthals, and repeating it when called on it, you are being a jerk to those teens who are perfectly adept. Which just happens to be, for the most part, the subset of teens that posts on this board. So you just called a sizable section of this board “the most worthless human beings on the Earth.” People don’t take too kindly to that. Hell, I’m not a teen, and I don’t take kindly to this. I have teenaged friends who are perfectly able to behave themselves in movie theaters, be respectful to others, ride skateboards where they won’t be a nuisance to pedestrians, vote, drive safely, and hold a legitimate conversation on topics other than Eminem and Avril Lavigne. But you choose to insult them, not caring that you’re fucking wrong to do so.

Why are we arguing against you? Because folks who share and act on this mindset are assholes. Teens do not deserve condescending treatment. Some teens, such as the one in your OP, do. Don’t fault a whole group for the actions of some. This is not a hrd thing to wrap one’s head around. Give it a shot.

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I just re-read my above post, and I don’t even think what I said was strong enough. I was surrounded by little monsters who were constantly acting out the absolute worst in human nature, with zero interest in redemption. They’re the ones who would have been lobbing their fish-heads and loaf-heels at Jesus during the Sermon On The Mount - if it was about kindness and mercy, they didn’t want to hear it.
I used to have psychosomatic headaches and stomach-aches from the stress of being thrust into their Machiavellian milieu.
Part of me is still disgusted by them, and another part wants to meet them in front of the bank someday and marvel at the decent human beings they miraculously grew up to be. I hope.

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Well, Troy McClure, pointing to exceptions doesn’t change the fact that a causal link exists here. The reason the girl was acting that way is that she didn’t know any better, because she lacked the social skills necessary to determine what was and was not appropriate behavioiur in a public setting surrounded by alot of people she didn’t know. The reason she lacked those skills is because she was a young teenager, and so did not have the experiences under her belt that most older people do. That a few teens may have gotten around that limitation in some way does not alter the fact that this girl’s behaviour was caused by her status as a teen, and the social inexperience that comes with that station in life.

And I’m not suprised at all that the teen population of the SDMB came out against me. If there’s anything you can count on teens to do, it’s act moody, react with great hostility to any apparent affront to their behaviour, and act like the world is out to get them, and waaaaaaaaay overestimate their importance to the world. These behaviours are caused by the lack of confidence teens have in themselves which they are usually struggling to overcompensate for (another general truth about them), and are to be expected.

Essentially, I feel justified in the way I ranted because at it’s core, this girl’s behaviour was a result of the fact that she was a teen. This is easily inferred by the fact that most girls over 20 act much differently. If I were to track this girl down in 10 years, and she was open-minded, polite and socially adept, then I would know for certain that her behaviour was due to her youth. I can, in the meantime, draw an inference from the general patterns of behaviour of teens vs. adults, coupled with a very good explanation for the general difference in behaviour, to conclude easily that her behaviour is a result of her being a teen. For analogy, the fact that not all people with violent mental illnesses murder somebody does not mean that such violent mental illness cannot be a cause of a murder. Just because a few teens do not exhibit the behaviours in question does not mean that “being a teen” has nothing to do with the behaviour I observed.

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And pointing out that there may be a casual link here does not change the fact that you’re repeatedly insulting people who don’t deserve it because some of their peers are jackasses. Why is this blanket statement OK, when so many other are not?

It’s more than the teen population that came out to get you. Me, for one. As for moodiness and hostility, how the hell would you react if some asshole starts railing on you for no goddamned reason? Read this thread title. The world is not out to get them. You are, asshole. And you seems to enjoy accusing every single one of them. Cites, all from this thread:

“I had almost forgotten what a waste of oxygen they are.”

“I can generalize all I want to if that’s my heart’s desire. Teens suck. See, I just generalized. Does that kill a pixie somewhere, or make an angel lose its wings?” No, it just makes you an ignorant prick.

“If there’s anything you can count on teens to do, it’s act moody, react with great hostility to any apparent affront to their behaviour, and act like the world is out to get them, and waaaaaaaaay overestimate their importance to the world.”

Oh wait, we’re all supposed to just lighten up, right? I’ll remember that next time I rant about those fucking old people and how they shit themselves and make me speak really loud when I’m talking to them.

Your posts have consisted of two main “points”: “Teens are worthless,” and “I’m in the Pit, so there.” In case you feel like actually addressing some points made in this thread, here’s a few to start on:

Please give us a reason to think SC_Wolf was right when he said

You seem quite content being an ignorant, close-minded jerk. Please prove me wrong.

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I hate all babies because they smell funny and have poor communication skills…

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Troy, and the others who’ve attacked RexDart,

You might have noticed that this is a PIT thread. It’s for RANTS, not calm dispassionate debates. Personally, I feel there should be a different standard in this forum, given that it is a place to release rage, an emotion which is in itself illogical and (arguably) intellectually indefensible. Lighten up!

And GenWoundWort, while I don’t hate babies because of bad smells and incomprehensible noises, I don’t want them near me either.

Rant on, Rex!

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yojimbo, I can read the froum descriptions. I’ve also noticed that this forum in the second home for debates. An OP filled with passionate opinions is the perfect start for debate, whether Rex likes it or not.

Also, Rex’s only defense has been “It’s the Pit and I can be an asshole if I want.” Uh-uh, not gonna fly. If he would even bother to say that he was overly impassioned, and that he probably said some things he shouldn’t have, then fine, this whole argument is moot.

Instead, since his OP is way over the top and irrational, he’s bound to get called on it. A few years ago a well-known then- and now- poster had his car broken into and his CDs and stereo were taken. He then came to the Pit, and in a fit of rage, posted a disgusting diatribe about those “dirty wetbacks,” and so on. He got reamed for that. Should he not have? Should we all have just lay down and thought, “It’s OK, he was angry!”

[I’ve searched for this thread quite a few times with no luck. However, I wouldn’t have linked to it here, anyway, because that thread deserves to stay in its grave, out of respect to everyone involved in it, including its OP. So please don’t link to it here.)

So how come this thread is the one that is so untouchable? Why should we let this one go? What’s so perfect about this OP that everyone should bow in reverance to it, rather than fight the ignorance it holds, ignorance that has been repeated several times after thae fact, so no “overcome with emotion” defenses here?

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Y’know, as a teen, I’d love to defend my age group…But I just can’t. It’s not possible. Being in 10th grade, but in a private school that packs 6-12th grades all in the same building, I have to say that the generalization “Teenagers are a waste of valuble earthen resources” holds true about 75% of the time. Jr. high kids (and some high school kids) can be some of the most perverted, impolite, freaks of nature you’ll ever see. I’m sure some of these people will grow up to be fine human beings. Maybe. Now, the real heart of the matter is: Do the kids know what’s right, and ignore it, or do they not know what’s right at all? I would have to say that half of the time, these kids don’t know what’s right and what’s wrong. And while a group of 7-8 girls in a movie theatre is anecdotal evidence at best, I have plenty more anecdotes, and I’m sure everyone else here does also. There comes a point when you see this happening so much, you need to draw a conclusion. And in this case, while, yes, there are some good teenagers (like myself (at least, I like to think so)), most of them are not. Rant on, indeed, Rex. You’re right on this one.

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Yea there’s a reason I dont have the precious darlins’,because sooner or later they become teens… :stuck_out_tongue:

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Yojimbo, would you have said the same thing if the thread title was “Niggers (and non-whites) in general, are the most worthless human beings on the Earth”?

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I agree with RexDart, the two situations are not comparable:

There IS a definite link between youthful ignorance and bad behavior. There is no such link between RACE and bad behavior.

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Oh, and by the way, Yojimbo is a different member of the SDMB. I am yojimboguy. I wouldn’t want to make him the inadvertent recipient of any heat generated by my opinions.

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Hmm, how to respond…

Teens are worthless. I’m in the Pit, so there.

How’s that?

Get a clue, idiot. If I want to, I’ll keep saying that. Unrepentedly, and without remorse. Deal with it. Or better yet, realize that it doesn’t affect you or anybody else in the least bit. If I want to hate all teens and ignore all your protestations, how does that impact anybody in the least? If I resolved here and now that I want nothing at all to do with teens ever again, and I think every last one of them is of no value whatsoever, how does that impact anybody? I’ll tell you – it doesn’t.

So why are you hung up on it? I guess it amuses me that you’re so annoyed with it, so keep it coming if you really want to, but I doubt that’s the point of even this forum. I think every potential troll lurking around has just learned what one of your hot-button issues is, so maybe you should cool off.

If I told you I absolutely hated McDonald’s, hated every bit of food and drink they sold there, and expressed my opinion that McDonald’s food is absolute junk, would you be protesting my opinion with such vigilance? The general attributes of teens are such that I do not enjoy being around most of them, and my personal opinion of them is that their lack of social skills and general inexperience creates their obnoxious behaviours. What’s the problem with expressing a matter of taste, an opinion? It isn’t physically inconveniencing any teens or depriving them of anything for me to express my opinion.

Since it’s my rant, I get to express my opinion. And since it’s on a public message board, you get to express yours as well. That’s working pretty well so far. But don’t waste any breath trying to get me to apologize for expressing my rant in the manner in which I did. I, and those who have agreed with me, see no problem with how I posted. I feel entirely content with both the form and substance of my rant. No apologies are forthcoming.

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Well, if all you can say is “fuck you,” then I guess all I can say is fuck you. Fair enough.

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I miss my worthless days…