Jurassic Park movie - how are there raptor eggs outside the raptor pen

Are there more than 3 raptors roaming around wild on the island? Grant and the kids never encounter them. Or can the 3 raptors get in and out of the pen at will? If so, why are they never a problem until the electricity to the fence goes off?
I guess the movie makers messed up by including the raptor nest from the book but not including the extra raptors and explaining how they tunneled out of the pen

I assumed they’d laid (lain?) them after breaking out. Or they’d laid (lain?) them in their den in secret (I mean, the guards wouldn’t have been looking in their cage for eggs, they figured they were incapable of reproducing at all) and moved them during their breakout.

But in the movie we assume that the raptors never get out of the pen until the electricity to their pen is turned off (and after that happens we see where they have broken the electric fence). But Grant found the raptor nest before the power to the raptor fence was turned off (which happens when Mr. Arnold shuts down the system, not when Nedry turns off other fences (for even Nedry knew better than to mess with the raptor fences)

who said they were raptor eggs? Seems to me he just found eggs…

OK, I went back and watched that part of the film again.

You’re right that the egg-discovery scene takes place before Arnold shuts down the system. But rewatching the scene, Grant never says that the hatched eggs he’s found are raptor eggs.

And that’s the entire scene. They weren’t raptor eggs.

We see the three-toed footprints in the sand that look like raptor feet.

Those eggs look the same as the raptor eggs in JPIII (I can’t believe I’m using JPIII to support a point)
I always assumed they were raptor eggs, but I suppose they could be something else though.

I’m sure plenty of dinosaur species have 3-toed feet. I never thought the nest Grant found was raptor eggs. That would make no sense.

In the book, it’s clear that animals have escaped before and started breeding before the big, deadly incident. Malcolm deduces it from the population numbers by graphing them; the raptors, compys, and several other species’ charts are those of a breeding population. The park managers didn’t realize it because their automated counting system assumed that none of the faux-dinosaurs could reproduce, and thus whenever they counted they were trying to discover fatalities, not extra faux-dinosaurs; thus hte system would automatically stop when it got to the predicted total.

It’s never revealed how the raptors, etc. are escaping, because that’s kind of the point. Hammond (the park owner) and his managers had set up a system they couldn’t control, with animals they didn’t understand. Book!Malcolm calls all the park’s problems in advance; it was just a matter of when they would occur, not if.

Though I don’t entirely agree that the system was inherently unworkable, as Malcolm opined, I do agree that Hammond and his crew were the wrong people to do it.

Maybe. They certainly didn’t encounter every dinosaur on the island (for example, they never see the Dilophosaurus that ate Nedry).

Who says they weren’t a problem earlier? A raptor kills a park employee in the very first scene of the movie.

Raptors had four-toed feet, but the inner two toes were carried off the ground, so their tracks appear essentially two-toed [actual fossil tracks, discovered after the film was made]. Here’s an image of the nest from JP- while they don’t look exactly like actual raptor tracks, I think it is pretty obvious that they are supposed to be.

PSXer posting a JP question is like Bill Murray posting a comedy question. Who’s a higher authority than PSXer?

I always took the first scene of the move - where the hunter and crew are capturing a Veliciraptor - as evidence that they had escaped before - and while Grant doesn’t say its a raptor egg ( how would he know without other evidence) - him finding the egg is meant as others have said - that the dinosaurs in general are reproducing.

Apparently a lot of people because I was wrong. I thought Grant identified the nest as raptors.

And I thought the first scene in the movie was introducing a new raptor to the pen (the big one who takes over and kills all but two of the others), not re-introducing one that had earleir escaped.

Yeah, I never thought they were raptor eggs he found. I figured they were eggs from the dinosaurs in that area of the park. They had hadrosaurs living among brachiosaurs. I figured they were keeping some dinosaurs who were herbivorous in the same areas like they do in some zoos with modern animals.

However, regarding the opening scene: was that the stupidest way to open a transfer cage? Did he really have to get up on top to open the gate? It looks like he just lays his hands on the top and the gate lifts up. Couldn’t he have just hooked up a chain from a crane and then gotten off the cage entirely, reached a safe area and then opened the gate??

And in the book when they do go to the raptor nest, the eggs are arranged in neat little circles just like the nest Grant finds in the movie

And the little girl on the picnic with her parents. (or am I conflating the novel with the film?)

The scene with the little girl on the island was in the first book but the second movie. And she was attacked by compys, not raptors

The eggs in the movie are not in a neat circle.

because they’ve already hatched.
Iunno clearly I don’t remember that scene as well as I thought I did. But I thought he did find a circular nest at least

I’m getting it mixed up with the scene in JPIII where they find raptor nests.

That would certainly explain my confusion.