World Eater:
“FTR Jenna has been arrested twice, which isn’t really shit.”
Unless you’re a Democrat. ducks
One could argue, though, that Bush Sr. has not done a very good job of holding his sons responsible for their actions. Whether it’s bailing them out of S&L scandals, keeping them out of wars, hushing up military desertion and DUIs or paying to support abandoned families, the message of the patriarch seems to be that his kids should never be held accountable for anything. Meanwhile he and at least two of his sons support life sentences for selling weed, and oppose any kind of state support for poor, working families.
It takes a little stretching but I could make an argument for Bush family hypocrisy if i really worked at it.
Diogenes, that’s stretching even for someone with logic as pliable as yours.
I’d kind of like to see that, actually. 
I take the position that there’s already so much to criticize about Bush’s politics that jabs at his family life are unneccesary.
DtC: It takes a little stretching but I could make an argument for Bush family hypocrisy if i really worked at it.
I don’t think it’s Bush-family-specific, it’s just the general (if deplorable) phenomenon that rich and powerful people get away with stuff that poor people don’t. That’s why the pitiable cocaine-addicted Noelle Bush gets drug rehab while poorer drug addicts get decades-long jail sentences; that’s why the current President avoided the Vietnam War in the Air National Guard (as the previous President did on a prestigious scholarship) while poor and obscure kids had to take their chances in the draft; that’s why Neil Bush ended up paying a $50,000 fine for his white-collar S&L misconduct while ordinary street robbers have to do time; and so on and so on and so forth. The hypocrisy is in the system, not specifically in the Bushes.
tlw, Kimstu,
I agree, I was just trying to help the OP out a little bit. 
Truthfully, I think Neil Bush is a slimeball, but it’s not W’s fault that he’s a slimeball and there is quite enough stuff to attack Junior about in his own right that it isn’t necessary to bring up his embarrassing relatives.
Um, nothing in the OP says or implies that this is W’s fault. Just that a member of the Bush family did something wrong. While I agree that the story isn’t really a big deal, some of you people are attacking the OP for something it didn’t do.
If someone mentioned something about Ted Kennedy or Michael Skakel, would you people say, “Can’t you people let JFK rest in peace?!”
Qwerty, If I started a pit thread titled “The Clintons are back to what they do best!” and linked a story and talked about how Bill’s cousin mouth-fucked an intern while at work, would you really not take that as an implied jab at Bill?
Honestly?
The topic says “Just another example…” I imply this to mean that the OP wants to lump this in with the legal troubles that W’s daughters have had recently.
You can ask for a cite anywhere. Doesn’t have to be GD/GQ.
Oh, BTW, Diogenes, in light of this comment of yours:
and this other comments in this thread:
and the subsequent comment by World Eater indicating how many times the Bush twins have been arrested for drinking (and really, given their facetime in the national media back in the early going of Bush’s presidency, it’d be hard for them to get away with drinking as much as they probably did), do you stand by this comment, or are you going to need “logic” more elastic and pliable than Stretch Armstrong to get out of this one?
Kimstu, that sounded like Neil was just asking for a job, like the one Billy Carter got from Libya. His most marketable commodity is his presidential brotherness, after all, not his management acuity.
I didn’t say anything about Neil Bush himself. I merely associated him with his politically powerful family. Part of the reason they’ve managed to have two family members elected President is because of their “family values” platform; their family members then go out and publicly prove that these values aren’t being taught at home.
Robin
Just a LEETLE observation. When Clinton was president, the right-wing press went after Chelsea big time. Unfortunately for them, her conduct was exemplary, or pretty damn close to it. Didnt stop them from calling her homely or accusing her of :::gasp::: DATING while in college.
I don’t think it’s right to go after the Bush girls, though I do think Diogenes’ point about the hypocrisy of preaching family values while letting your family members escape the consequences of their actions is a good one.
But to be fair, I think the Pubs oughtta let the Dems have three or four hundred threads about the Bush girls being drunken sluts before they start complaining about the Dems attacking them. As it stands now, the Pubs on this board can be accused of hypocrisy, since they are advocating that the Dems hew to a standard re: the Bush girls that the Pubbies DEFINITELY came nowhere close to WRT Chelsea Clinton.
Remember Rush Limbaugh’s failed TV show?
Once on that show, Limbaugh was standing in front of a moniter bringing images up on the screen and doing bits about them. During that segment he showed a picture of Socks the cat and then said, “…but the Clintons also have a dog…” After which he put a picture of Chelsea Clinton up on the screen. Chelsea was all of 13 years old at the time. The studio audience of dittohead morons howled with laughter.
The dems would have to go a long way to equal anything that slimy.
True DtC, it’s tougher to get lower than that. Morons.
So I guess it’s OK to return fire, right? Since your level of slime isn’t nearly so low as the Republicans, you can say whatever you want to.
So much for the integrity and morality of the Democrats.
Thank God I’m an independent. I can safely say that both parties are full of dirtbags, be it the politicians or the people who support them.
I’m an independent too. I’ve never been registered with any political party, and I’ve voted in every national election since 1984. The first vote I ever cast was for Ronald Reagan (I was 18, I was an idiot).
I already said in this thread that going after families of politicos was pointless and inappropriate, but i also think it’s kind of hypocritical for the pubbies to whine about now after what was done to Clinton’s family for eight years.
It reminds me of W saying it was time to put away “the politics of personal destruction” after his party had used those tactics as viciously as they possibly could while BC was in office. It seems like the pubbies want different ruls for themselves than they do for the dems.
You know, for a self-described “cynic”, and from what I’ve seen an intelligent (if biased) one at that, this statement is just about the most naive thing you could have possibly said.
Of course they want different rules for themselves. And when the Democrats are in power, they’ll want different rules. And the circle goes 'round and 'round and nothing changes, forever and ever Amen.
So please, fire away at George W. After all, using his family to insult him is only fair game, right? As if his foreign and economic policies aren’t enough fodder for you guys.
Holy cow, amazing things happen when I’m not looking. Welcome back Airman Doors. And thanks.
I prefer to focus on W and his administration. I don’t have to resort to using his family to trash him.
However, Neil Bush perpetrated a fraud on the whole country in the 80’s, that means he’s fair game for criticism in his own right, and that criticism can extend to his father for protecting him.
I see no reason to drag W into that situation, though.
W’s daughters are a different matter. He sells himself on a platform of self-righteous “family values.” His daughters’ legal problems and alcohol abuse reflect on him as a parent. If he didn’t try to make “family” part of his political persona it wouldn’t be relevant, but since he does, it is. It’s a credibility thing.
How is it that his daughters’ alcohol problems reflect upon him? Did you not party when you went to college? Did you not get piss ass drunk? And if you got caught, did you blame your parents for it?
It’s not like he was there holding their hands and making them drink. Yet somehow it’s his fault as a parent. Go figure.