But we’ve won them before and they are anything but monolithic, with no sign that they are about to become monolithic. If in 2050 the Asians become the most important swing group to appeal to, I like our chances. Democrats not only ignore this group, but in places like California have actively worked against their interests. Asians succeeded in defeating an attempt to bring AA back to college admissions. White, black, and Latino Democrats weren’t too happy that they didn’t just suck it up and be team players. Way to keep them in the coalition.
There are relatively few places of any size where Republicans get that percentage of the vote, and they tend to be places with other and hard-to-replicate factors.
White Mississippians, e.g., are about 90% Republican (versus about 5% of non-white Mississippians). The same pattern holds in much of the rest of the Deep South, the places with a long history of racially-charged politics, AND the places with a predominance of culturally conservative white evangelicals.
In places where evangelical Protestantism (or the Mormons) are not a dominant factor, the Republican Party doesn’t enjoy anything close to that kind of dominance either.
Yet if Democrats see a path to electoral success by appealing directly to race, how can whites not respond to that? Or Asians, for that matter? Asians are mostly Democratic now, but Democrats sure are going out of their way to ignore or work against their interests.
Democrats see a path to success by appealing to EVERYONE regardless of their race, that your party does such a great job of making itself completely repugnant to minorities is an indictment on your policies.
Mexicans don’t want to come here. In Mexico the family is paramount. I am not sure people in America understand how important family is in Mexico. It really pains them to leave their families.
They come here with a perceived vision of opportunity which does not exist in Mexico.
What if the money spent here to keep them out, and whatever expenses their immigration creates (billions, no?), was invested into creating opportunity in Mexico? Would they come here?
Does the border with Canada have 20,000 border patrol agents?
No, it’s an indictment of the minorities who continue to buy in to the “free shit” government Santa Claus policies that democrats support. In exchange they supply plenty of crime, unemployability, and illegitimacy, which gives democrats more fodder to continue the great American giveaway. It’s a vicious,vicious circle that ultimately benefits absolutely nobody but liberal politicians.
And support for those positions is based entirely on:
- My costs won’t go up.
- My costs won’t go up.
- My taxes will go down.
1 and 2 are factually false (food costs WILL rise) and 3 is probably untrue in that scenario. I mean, is the Border Security Fairy going to shit thousands of guards and miles of fence for free?
In any case, 3 has nothing to do with illegal immigrants since (in spite of pkbites’ frothing factless bile) most illegals do not use tax-supported services at any significant level.
So the GOP treats immigration like they treat abortion, they LOVE to rail against it and would HATE to see it disappear.
My folks immigrated to the US legally. They had to wait in the line of immigration processing, jump through the hoops, wait, deal with the paperwork, get approved, wait, get visas, wait a long time for green cards, and wait a long time to get citizenship.
Not sure which part of that was “easy.”
Not everything Big Labor does is right. I think you know that.
The part where they were allowed to immigrate to the US legally? something that is virtually impossible for the millions of people you are suggesting it for? I don’t understand how this is confusing. People risk their lives, abandon their families and everything they have known just to have a small chance at what your parents were simply given. What you are saying is basically “if you want to stop being poor you should just win the lottery”.
False argument.
You can permit all of those things while checking closely to see if illegal immigrants are trying to come through.
This is like someone who says, “To ensure that there is no drunk driving, we need to ban all automobiles.”
I understand.
Well, they could give the job of securing the border to illegal immigrants. If they have poor job performance they are deported. They must work to maintain the border for, let’s say 5 years and then they can start the application process to become citizens.
But then there is the little problem of the government employing illegals. :dubious:
In addition to being impossible.
Actually, yes, it is hard to imagine it pushing any who are not there already.
I am a US citizen working as an immigrant in the Cayman Islands. My experience here has convinced me that a reasonable immigration policy is possible but neither major US political party are interested in a solution.
The Cayman system includes:
[ul][li]a generous immigration work visa system. Employers must show that they tried to recruit locally but were not able to find suitably qualified applicants. Once they have done so a work visa, valid for one to a maximum of three years, can often be issued in less than three weeks. [/li][li]tight enforcement of visa overstayers or illegal landings. From detained to deported in less than a week is not uncommon (except for Cubans - their government does not cooperate)[/li][li]work visas can only be renewed to a maximum stay of 8 years for most workers. After that the immigrant worker must leave for at least one year. After the break, he may return on a work visa again. But…[/li][li]with employer sponsorship a key employee may be able to stay up to year 9 at which point he must begin the application for permanent residency or else leave.[/li][/ul]
Of course it is easier to police the border as a small island, but with a fairly open work visa system we really do get very few cases of visa overstays or illegal landings. Enforcement allows for a more open legal pathway.
It’s not perfect, but it is much better than what the US has now.
No, you can’t permit all those things while still having a sealed border.
For example, by some estimates there are four million visa overstayers in the U.S., people who came for shopping or medical care or tourism or school and simply never bothered to leave. No amount of checking up front will do anything about that, because they enter the country quite legally. If you permit any foreign national to enter the U.S. as a tourist, you’ve created an opening for that person to turn into an illegal immigrant once the tourist visa expires.
So, I’ve read more people talking about securing the border or “enforcing the laws”. That’s cool. If you’re not going to enforce a law, you probably shouldn’t have it. (All of this ignores the fact that the law is being enforced, but whatever.)
So, let’s suppose we do what some have suggested and send the National Guard, or even the Army to the southern border. Ignore posse comitatus for a minute.
What will all those soldiers lining the border do? You have to say it. You have a literal army of armed soldiers standing watch at the border. When a potential illegal immigrant approaches, what will the soldiers do? Look at the pictures of the people involved in the current “crisis”. Then, think about what those soldiers will do.
Is that what we want? Are we so scared that that is what we want?
I think this would be fair:
- The soldiers should broadcast, in Spanish and other languages, over loudspeakers, that this is an international border and the people should turn back if they are not authorized to cross the border.
- If the illegal immigrants need food, water or medical assistance, the troops will provide it.
- Soldiers should not use force unless absolutely necessary.
- Even if force must be used, it should be non-lethal whenever possible.
- Travelers who do have the right authorization to cross the border will have their documents inspected, then permitted to pass through.
- Illegal immigrants who are in fear for their life (i.e., cartel/criminal attack) can be given temporary protection.
- Border stations/facilities should be located every 5 miles. These facilities would have the ability to provide emergency medical services and temporary housing as needed.