Just what laws have been broken here? And the leeway police have with students

Prolly learned a better lesson than whatever the boring lecture was about, anyway.

I am glad that the streets of Wisconsin are now safe from this dangerous criminal.

I must have slept for about 30 years. When does a school principal need police officers to enforce discipline in his school? When I was 14, if we had cell phones back then, it would have been broken in half when Mr. Fain took that giant paddle across my ass.

Where are parents nowadays? Seriously. I wouldn’t have dreamed of disrespecting the school administrators like that. Never mind corporal punishment; what about no phone, no friends, no internet, no fun on weekend? You know, punishment?

I’m certain we’ve all seen video of students attacking school staff by now. My personal take would be “I’m not paid enough for this crap, let John Law deal with it”

In my neck of the woods if you’re found using a cell phone in school the teachers take it from you and give it back to you … not at the end of the day, not at the end of the week, but at the end of term! Obviously kids have cells at school, but they have to be turned off. If you refused to hand it over you’d be suspended I’d guess.

The rules at TheKid’s high school state

Yes, I have been a parent in the office picking up a phone.

The girl in question, as others have pointed out, was already known to the police for other matters. I’m guessing she wasn’t running for student of the year. She wasn’t strip searched. She was treated appropriately, as far as I’m concerned.

Note to self: Don’t buy used cellphones.

Nowadays, it’d be Mr. Fain getting arrested for abuse. Things are somewhat different today.

The parents are disrespecting the cops more than likely. I don’t mean it as a blanket accusation, but illustrating the fact that disrespect of authority seems to be the attitude du jour.

What you need, Diogenes, is a fucking crack on the mouth from an authority figure. Maybe that’ll teach you how to behave in public!

And if this is offensive to you, or to anyone else, then it’s equally offensive for you to say it about a teenage girl. Personal rights don’t suddenly come into existence on your 18th birthday.

That’s not to say that anyone involved in this did the right thing, the girl herself in particular. Teachers do have the right to maintain classroom order and the attention of their students. But let’s not take it over the top.

Seriously? You think everyone involved in this situation messed up?

“Buttonhole”?

What did the teacher do wrong? The principal? Even the cops? Who did anything wrong but the kid?

The school district right next door to this little darling does not allow cell phones in the schools at all. It was bad enough when local drug dealers took their calls in class (“its my mom I have to take this…”) but then the future leaders of America started calling their friends and parents into school to engage in physical fights because someone was looking at them funny.

This constant assumption that the authority figures are always wrong is destroying the next generation. They have no respect for anyone, least of all themselves, because they know what they are doing is wrong but there is always someone (often their parent or some odd posters here) who is willing to go to the mat to them no matter what they have done.

Was it up to me, this little brat would get paddled in front of the entire class for her little temper tantrum. There are still states where the “board of education” is allowed. Really wish she’d done this in one of them.

Speaking as a former high-school teenager, I heartily endorse this. (Leather and restraints are optional.)

Seriously, though, this is why it needs to be easier to expel students. The proper order of operations should be:

Teacher: “Put away the cell phone.”
Teen: “No.”
Teacher: “First and last warning.”
Teen: “No.”
Teacher: “Leave.”
Teen: “No.”

Followed by bringing in the security officer to get her out of the room, and into the principal’s office, and be told “Co-operate or get expelled.”, and then get expelled and no longer be the school’s problem.

The only thing that bothers me here is the search. Why? What was it supposed to accomplish? Was it even legal? The last question should have a factual answer, but nobody has bothered to determine one.

It has been answered. She was searched because she’d been placed under arrest. Everyone who gets arrested gets searched.

Thank you! This is what I wanted to say, but didn’t. Well-put, furlibusea.

Are you fucking stupid? Again, she was NOT strip-searched, she was FRISKED.
And surely you’re not saying ALL strip-searches are “sexual assault?” :rolleyes:

Thank goodness she didn’t say FOAD. Lord knows what would have happend if she did.

I really don’t think that police involvement and a formal arrest is appropriate when dealing with a rude 14 year old.

What else can you do? She refused to obey instructions. You’re not allowed to physically force her to comply. You can’t let the rest of the students see her get away with it.