Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz as VP

It’s better to get any information out now. The campaign has time to respond.

Harris and Walz don’t want any surprises 10 days before Election day.

In this thread? I’m not seeing it in my daily life.

The first article linked there seems pretty good. He was able to get bipartisan things done when he had a Republican legislature, and he was able to pass a lot of very progressive bills once he had a one-vote majority. So he can coach offense AND defense!

If you think that’s evidence that Harris said she wants to “defund the police”, you’re very much mistaken and are making exactly the kind of mischaracterization that we always hear from the right. I have no doubt that Harris and Walz will be accused of being “far left radicals” and indeed Trump and his cronies are already doing it, but clearly this is just nonsensical political rhetoric to fire up the base…

Here’s the essence of what Harris said, from your own article – and I’m sure she’d say the same thing today and that Walz would agree:

… Harris said that she believed “we have to reimagine public safety in America” and argued that “for too long, people have confused achieving public safety with putting more cops on the street.” … “in many cities in America over one-third of their city budget is placed, is paid to policing. … Meanwhile, schools are suffering.”

The right sees public safety in simplistic, brute-force terms: more police, more arrests, more prisons, longer sentences. This has never worked and never will when crime is a systemic societal problem. Harris is talking about addressing the fundamental problem by providing things like better schools and more opportunities for disadvantaged youth rather than the losing proposition of over-policing. How is this “far left”, which is what you said earlier?

So far, the major skeletons seem to be a 30 year old DUI that he took responsibity for and the fact that he resigned from military service before his unit was deployed. The Republicans are really losing their touch. Nobody has yet commented on the fact that he spent a year in China and apparently can still speak Mandarin. He’s obviously a Chinese spy. /sarcasm.

Oh, his China “connection” was brought up on Fox News. He honeymooned in China, and according to this CNN article, was being “groomed” (the conservatives say) by the Chinese government.

I listened to the NYT podcast (The Daily) this morning and the most interesting thing I learned was that Congressman Walz’ district went for Trump in 2016 by 15 points and Walz still retained his seat. To me this means that Walz is palpable to a significant percentage of independent and conservative voters.

First you put words in my mouth now you put words in his. There is no indication that he left as a protest. He just left after signing up for more years and before he could deploy.

I doubt there will be any skeletons. Meaning new bad information. I would suspect anything bad was found out by the time he was governor. It won’t be “new” but more like “new to you.” The criticism of his military career and his DWI came out before but are now being exposed to a larger audience. If the Harris campaign didn’t know about it they would have to be very incompetent.

Regarding his rank, he was promoted to Command Master Sargeant and served in that role, but that was a provisional promotion pending completion of a training program. He ended service before completing the requirements, so his rank and pay reverted to the prior rank.

Lots of military folks have their rank and pay adjusted upon retiring.

As for the timing of his choice to leave the National Guard, others in his unit back him fully.

He also had major hearing loss that eventually required surgery to replace the bones in his ears.

This sounds like someone fishing for a reason to hate on Walz. Just like I was wrong to pick on Vance serving as a combat correspondent, Vance is wrong to pick on Walz not going to Iraq or Afghanistan. He went where assigned as a National Guard member. He left to pursue a new career in politics. His timing was driven by major hearing loss.

I didn’t put words in your mouth and I would thank you for granting me the same courtesy! I haven’t checked his actual platform from the 2006 election, but I assume he opposed the war. Do you have any cites to the contrary?

This says a lot about his military service. The guy could have said nothing; instead Walz left enough of an impression on him that he praises Walz’ military experience, even though they have vastly different political viewpoints.

Oh, gee, look at that. From Wikipedia:

Walz campaigned heavily against the Iraq war as popularity for the war was declining that year.[35]

The cite for that sentence is here..

See what you can accomplish when you actually bother to check your facts before posting?

The “Tim Walz’s military service” argument begins and ends with the article below. One of CNN’s correspondents fact-checked this on the air a little over an hour ago – here is the online version:

Walz retired from the Army National Guard in May 2005, according to the Minnesota National Guard. Typically, service members need to submit papers several months before they can retire.

A National Guard article on his [former - b] unit’s deployment states that it received alert orders to deploy to Iraq in July 2005, two months after Walz retired. The unit first mobilized in the fall of 2005 to Camp Shelby Mississippi to prepare for deployment, according to the unit’s history, and then deployed in March 2006 for 22 months, which the Guard said was the longest continuous deployment of any military unit during US operations in Iraq.

Walz filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission as a candidate for Congress on February 10, 2005.

Wow, a Republican sound-bite attack is bullshit, knock me over with a gentle breeze.

Didn’t you JUST say that you merely assumed he opposed the war?

Funny how certain allegedly “Democratic” posters are so eager to parrot right-wing talking points. Makes you wonder what their real motivation is.

Moderating: Enough of this, this is not the pit.

Please everyone avoid attacking each other.

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At the rally in Eau Claire (still going on, but Walz has handed over to Harris at the moment) somebody in the crowd seems to have had heat stroke or something. Walz just… stopped his speech for several minutes until he was sure they’d gotten help, and that everyone else was doing okay in the heat and staying hydrated. Just, like… a kind, remarkably human vibe from him through the whole thing. And Harris and Walz seem to get on well together, from how their messaging and their personality.

And he worked in China the same year as the Tiananmen Square massacre, which apparently made it hard to discuss his becoming her running mate over there.

And the year before that he was already involved in politics as a volunteer for John Kerry.