Ahh, I see. I was wrong then. I thought he was facing jail for child molestation in Thailand. Mea culpa.
I’d like to know how the hell they got the DNA results so fast. I had an indigent black client in the county jail on a rape charge for 6 months waiting for a DNA test that exonerated him. There’s nothing (in Georgia, anyway) that a defense attorney can do to get the crime lab to move any faster. I guess some men are created more equal than others…
I strongly suspect it was the prosecution that pushed through the test not the defense.
If the guy wasn’t mentally incompetent then I don’t have a problem with it - he confessed to a very serious crime, evidently provided enough information upfront that he couldn’t be dismissed as an obvious liar, and that required the justice system to go to a lot of time, trouble and expense to bring him to the US to face investigation. He intentionally led people on a bit of a wild goose chase. Why shouldn’t he be punished, including compensating the government for the wasted resources?
That's my point. If it's a poor black guy in a rural county, well, no rush.Well, I had Geraldo’s current sleazefest show on the other day, in which the moustached douchbag himself called Karr a “creepy nutcase” and said that he had a “creepy feeling” that they’d found the right guy, so I have to say I’m not at all surprised that he’s been exonerated.
The police came to him, he didn’t go to them. Plus, what if he really thinks he did it? He wouldn’t be a liar then, just a nutcase. I would blame investigators for not bothering to at least check and see if he had an alibi that night. I’m amazed at how premature they were with this. I thought they would have surely made sure they had their ducks in a row before they embarrassed themselves again. I guess I was wrong.
Do we know for sure that the DNA test has been performed in only the last couple of weeks? Patsy has been dead two months, and she knew an arrest was imminent before she died so perhaps they were able to obtain a DNA sample some time back and the arrest was made in anticipation of the results becoming available? Also, the sample that was found at the crime scene had already been analysed, so it was simply a matter of analysing Karr’s sample and checking to see if they match - maybe that made the process a little faster? Finally, aren’t there different types of DNA tests? Maybe your client’s sample required more detailed analysis than the one in this case?
I don’t know. I saw some people speculating about it the other day. That’s why I used the word “probably” (I intended to use the word “possibly”, but was half asleep when I posted) - I simply don’t know if the charges he faces are enough to get him on the register but I’ve talked with others who seem to think that they will.
Doesn’t matter if the police came to him. If a cop walks up to me and asks me if I’m the guy who vandalized all those cars and I say “Yup, it was me” and start providing some details, and I get hauled downtown for questioning, when I later say “I didn’t really do it, I was just yanking your chain” then I ought to be in trouble. I am lying to the police and wasting valuable time that could have been spent more productively. That’s behavior that should be discouraged.
I did address the “nutcase” possibility in my first sentence - if the guy isn’t mentally competent then he’s less responsible for his actions. But if he knew what he was doing and knew it was wrong, he should be held accountable.
I haven’t been paying tons of attention to the whole sorry episode so I can’t speak to whether the police should have known better. If they were incompetent in their investigation then yeah, that’s on them.
Your jaded view of the press aside… what did they do wrong? An arrest was made in a long standing unsolved case. Law enforcement et al took us for the ride. The media just told us about it. God, I get tired of dimwits who trash the media because they don’t agree with them.
I don’t know everything Karr knew that “only the killer or someone close to the investigation would know.” However, at least one of the things that reporters claimed made him a credible suspect (details of the bracelet JBR was wearing) is readily available on the internet. Remarkably detailed descriptions of the rope around her neck, of everything she was wearing, all that. Reporters–and possible law enforcement officials–may have underestimated the amount of information that has been disseminated.
If I went to the local airport and said I had a bomb, how much would I be fined when they found out I didn’t have one? Ten grand? Twenty? Fifty? Karr wasted law enforcement time and resources. He should be liable.
(I said this on Larry Elder this afternoon, or rather, Mr. Rilch did on my behalf, and Elder totally agreed. 
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They really shouldn’t have been covering the story at all. This was a local matter. Sad to say, kids get murdered under mysterious circumstances all the time, and in many cases the killer is never caught. That’s not news. Jon Bennet was a cute little blond headed white kid from an affluent family with the added bonus of having been involved in tot beauty pageants, a controversial pastime. News producers saw her angelic face and in their black little hearts they all went “I can sell this, and the public will gobble it up like crack cocaine”. Last week a major court decision with constitutional ramifications was handed down (the NSA wiretap thing? Remember?) and this attention whore from Thailand blew coverage of it right off the front pages. Why? Why is it news to anyone except her family and maybe her community? The short answer is that it isn’t and shouldn’t be, except for the media frenzy around the original case that created the interest in the first place. If you think “the media just told us about it” you’re deluded.
Originally? Maybe no. Maybe so. It’s a valid story, as much as any other murder is. After 10 years? And all the publicity this case has generated? Of course they’re going to cover it! But you think they should have just ignored Karr. And THEY should be blamed now for doing it. Wake up, son. This was a no-brainer for them. We wouldn’t even be here talking about it if they hadn’t.
So you admit that the media “probably” (that’s how I interpet your “maybe so”) created the “story” in the first place, yet somehow this makes it actual news? Weird.
No… Are you reading-comprehension-impaired? They could have picked up the story in the first place, or not. AFTER 10 YEARS… they didn’t really have a choice. Now did they? Or do you debate that? Are you so fucking thick that you think they should have ignored the last few day’s happenings?
Nah… wasn’t really some guy arrested in Thailand, for this murder. LALALALA nothing to see here folks. Nothing happened in the last week to report on. Back you you, Wolf. :rolleyes:
I mean, good god, Weirdo, this is just meaningless sparring. At least from my end. But do you really think the media should have ignored the last few day’s events? Are you so fucking stupid as to think this should not be reported??? On what basis do you think it’s wrong? On which basis do you think it’s misreported? How is this biased media? State some FACTS here or SHUT THE FUCK UP!
No, but you did say
So are you now going to shout out a giant UNFUCK YOU* to those of us that beleive that the parents know /knew more than they let on?
I’d ask for a giantI was wrong, but I know that ain’t gonna happen.
How is it “fucking stupid” to think that this story was overreported or that to ignore this story is to ignore the last few days events?
I listen to NPR on the way to and from work, and god bless 'em they barely covered any of the Karrnage. They actually paid attention to some of the smaller stories like the war in Iraq, Lebanon, oil prices, the ongoing Katrina aftermath, and the economy in general. Come home and turn on the television and there he is with new details about what kind of a creepy man he is. :rolleyes:
This story was all sensationalism and lurid speculation. Why don’t you tell us why this was worth so much national newstime versus other stories?
I DIDN’T THINK IT WAS A NATIONAL STORY 10 YEARS AGO! Holy fuck, talk about being thick as a brick ifwas, what part of that is so hard to understand? The media sensationalized this (I’m sorry to say it this coldly) routine murder 10 years ago. The media covered something that should have been a local matter in Boulder wall to wall for ratings. The media has spent the last 10 years breathlessly informing us of every event and non even in this case. The media made an issue out of something that is a non-issue to 99.9% of the population. Now, 10 years later, they spend an inordinate amount of time covering this “story” and feeding the ego of this twisted loser Karr, and you’re response is “Of course they covered it, it’s Jon Benet! This is big news, it was in all the news outlets, didn’t you see it?”. Talk about being a media whore! Jesus, this is only news because they say it’s news, and you sidle right up to the trough and grunt “more, more” as they shovel this shit down your throat, making their rating go up and making them more money. Do you not see the problem here?