Ken "Piglet Rapist" Ham's war on Bill Nye

Any chance you could get us pics of the dino derby, Paranoid Randroid? Save us the trip?

(Just to add to the conversation: I have, in the back seat of my car, a ‘science’ book that explains that dinosaurs were actually dragons, and are still around. Also, any legend that enough people believe is probably true. In a science book. I have it because my brother -insisted- I get it out of his house.)

No, the white phone.

John Scalzi did a trip there, with pictures and a text narration. It’s five years old now, so he may have missed out on some exciting new exhibits, but there it is.

Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.

Ken Ham is right, Bill Nye has no understanding of the difference between historical science and observational science. Though in making that distinction up he is intrepidly furthering Bullshit Science.

What the hell does “he is out to get your kids for evolution.” even mean? Like a scientific theory is a fantasy foot ball draft.

Ken was born in '51. The Flintstones were on tv from '60 to '66. maybe he was still at a point in his development that it influenced him strongly.

Ham keeps promising an Ark Park - a full scale, seaworthy, all wood, historically accurate replica of the real Noah’s ark… to be built in land-locked Kentucky.

So far, the fund raising for the Ark Folly has fallen way short of Hamboner’s predictions, and the completion dates keep getting muddled.

see: www.arkencounter.org for the cluster-fuck of empty promises, wild blog tales of how Noah must have done it ( Another Meaning to Poop Deck | Ark Encounter ) and money wanking.

Speculation:

One of the beliefs of some Christians is that Satan is an actual being, actively going around spreading false information, “luring” (or “confusing”) people away from the word of God, as found in the Bible.

This includes the theory of evolution, I assume, since evolution is not described in the bible. The quote “created in the image of God” is usually stated as being the only biblical word on the origin of humans. (I guess, in this case, if it ain’t found in the bible, it aint true.)

As also illustrated in the quote, a lot of people think that somehow the theory of evolution makes us less special. But that’s wrong, as the bible says we are.

This has always made me nervous. Satan is allegedly a quick-witted, silvertongued deceiver. As a supernatural being, he need be only a fraction as powerful as his former employer to get this done. Not that I’m drawing a direct comparison, but look at the influence wielded by a handful of mere humans in our own Republican party. They steer the thoughts of half of our countrymen with an assortment of half-truths and full-on lies. To those who cotton to their platform, the lies ARE reality. Those mind/reality controlling principles in the hands of a supernatural being could easily accomplish the task of getting us to disbelieve God’s relatively recent efforts.

Sure, we say it’s silly to disavow scence and direct observation in favor of creationism, but those who believe in creationism find us equally silly. We may all inhabit the same planet, but we do NOT live in the same reality; and each side, with varying degrees of respect, is begging the other to see reason.

I don’t think this is anything new to the human condition. :smiley:

They think the ratings system is heresy because stars are angels’ sparkly eyes.

You’re right, regrettably. Which makes all that much more sad that we still mock those on the other side.

I hope there’s an afterlife. I hope there’s a scene where people like Ken walk up to the pearly gates, expecting St. Peter to say, “In spite of Satan, you believed the bible. You’re special and super-smart! Come on in.”

But instead what happens is St. Peter says, “God gave you a good brain. He expected you to use it. Why didn’t you?”

What I found most impressive about the overall plan for that park–the full-scale arc is just the First Phase, after all!–is the rebuild of the freakin’ Tower of Babel. Kind of a ballsy project for a biblical literalist to undertake, no?

Oh. I see. “Over 100 ft tall”. So the plan is clearly to half-ass it so as to not invoke God’s wrath. A bit underwhelming given that, but then again, the description does indicate that the highlight of the Tower of Babel exhibit “… will be a spectacular show that undoubtedly will be well received by guests.”

(For the record, Mr. Ham, ol’ Mllz here thinks the re-scattering of humans around the globe would also be a spectacular show, especially if caused by an actual tower reaching to the heavens. Just maybe not as well-received by guests)

You know, something just occurred to me. Maybe the reason efforts to settle on a common language for Europe is… the Eiffel Tower.

I console myself with the knowledge that someday, Ken Ham will be in a museum exhibit and it will likely be about the unintended hilarious screw-ups of evolution. He’s demonstrating the danger of evolution, just not the way he intends

Wouldn’t it be great if his hamfisted handling of the situation means we all drown?

He should be focusing on recreating the important parts of the Bible, like turning water into wine. Or at least holding productions of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.

Has anyone ever tryed building a Virtual Ark? I mean a proper 3d model with all the animals and the appropriate facilities etc.

Basically as realistic as possible Nb Your values of realistic may vary.

I suspect anyone with the skills to do it would have the sense not to bother but i’d still like to see it.

So many wonderful possibilities. Like: “Why didn’t you re-build the Temple when you had the chance?” Or “Why did you chase Joseph Smith out of town?” Or “What is the capital of Assyria?”

That would be cool! How hard could it be, using any of the available 3D CAD programs?