Ken Wilber explains ISIS

[Jonathan_Chance]

Not really much of a debate. Maybe IMHO will fit better.

[MrQwertyasd]

That’s a fine place for my nonsense.

[garygnu]

And here I thought we might finally be discussing chariot racing teams of Byzantium.

[Steken]

@garygnu

and here i thought we might finally be discussing chariot racing teams of byzantium.

Νίκα! Νίκα! Νίκα!

[bobot]

@MrQwertyasd

No no, he provides a simple basis which you use to interpret the complexities of the world around you. And ISIS are blues. They need to become Greens at least, or the Oranges will bomb the shit out of them until they go back to being Beiges.

Why don’t they have blue flags?

[Captain_Amazing]

@Steken

Νίκα! Νίκα! Νίκα!

Dig up Justinian’s bones!

[MrQwertyasd]

@bobot

Why don’t they have blue flags?

What are flags, really ??

[JoseB]

@MrQwertyasd

What are flags, really ??

Usually-quadrilateral pieces of cloth with designs on them that symbolize a country, region, city or organization, but it’s not important right now.

[MrQwertyasd]

@JoseB

Usually-quadrilateral pieces of cloth with designs on them that symbolize a country, region, city or organization, but it’s not important right now.

So, what should we put in the various quadrants of this “flag” ?

[JoseB]

@MrQwertyasd

So, what should we put in the various quadrants of this “flag” ?

Aaaannnnd, here comes a mighty whoooosssshhhh, as if a big Airplane! had passed just above…

[Ravenman]

@MrQwertyasd

So, what should we put in the various quadrants of this “flag” ?

Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

[MrQwertyasd]

@Ravenman

Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

I met a guy who picked up a heroin habit in a Turkish prison, if that’s any help.

[Doctor_Jackson]

@blue_infinity

Every human society is neatly colour-coded, and they’re all planets of hats.

I like hats but, as a rule, not blue or purple ones. Mostly I wear hats that are predominately white, except my leather Australian outback hat which is brown.

I hope this helps.

[cmyk]

@MrQwertyasd

So would fascism be somewhere between the Blue and the Orange - strong mythical elements, but a modernist approach also for practical reasons ?

I think Islam as a whole started to get into Orange territory during it’s renaissance years, and maybe in the early twentieth century, but that sort of philosophical development really threatens the existence of the monotheist religions so it has to slump back into the mythicist and magical thinking of Blue. It does make them useful tools for rivalries between Oranges, though. You just have to thwart too many people becoming Oranges and you can foster a whole bunch of Blues you can shove around the chess board.

Us folks in the color biz call that “blorange”.

[MrQwertyasd]

The ever present threat of the forces of blorange. Yes that works.