Kerry/Rodham-Clinton ticket?

Well golly! Those eloquent, well-reasoned arguments sure cleared it up for me. Here I was thinking it was just pure sexism. Thanks for enlightening me!

Who did we hear this from, and who was he talking to when he said it??

**Kerry/Rodham-Clinton ticket? **

[channeling John McLaughlin]

WRONG!
The correct answer is: Evan Bayh, conservative Democratic Senator from Indiana. Tony Blankley?

[/channeling John McLaughlin]

Has Kerry had any meetings with Hillary? We know he’s met with Gephardt, Edwards, et al. None of them are denying they’re in the running at this point or saying they don’t want the job. Hillary, on the other hand, is.

Personally, I’d like to see Hillary Clinton get elected President someday, just to drive tighy-righties like silenus crazy. :wink:

OTOH, if she’s really smart, she’ll never run for President, just to show that tighy-righties like silenus are crazy. :smiley:

I admire Hillary, but she won’t be the choice. I believe it should be Bill Richardson.

Richardson can deliver New Mexico, will have a strong shot at Arizona (John McCain is going to not try too hard for Bush), and can make Bush work for Texas. Sending Richardson into Hispanic Texas will cause Bush to spend time in Texas.

Richardson can also help in Nevada. Kerry can concentrate on the Midwest and Northeast which will help him obtain victory.

Hillary doesn’t add anything to the ticket. New York is in the victory column and I believe Illinois is as well.

Those seem like pretty lame reasons to “hate someone with the white hot heat of a thousand suns,” especially compared to some of the crap Bush has pulled. He wasn’t elected either (except by the Supreme Court), and lied to bring the country to war. Do you hate him with the hot heat of a thousand suns?

Richardson has repeatedly said that he isn’t interested. He wants to finish his first term as Governor, which will take him to 2006, and I won’t be surprised if he’s easily reelected. That’ll take it to 2010, where he’ll hit New Mexico’s term limit, though I’m not clear if “two consecutive 4-year terms” means 8 years max, no matter what or if it is possible to run for another term after four years. And at that point, why not consider a run for President in 2012 or so, depending on what happens the next two elections.

While I kinda like the idea of my state being a bell-weather state (only wrong twice in 90 years) and a swing-state, 5 electoral votes is not a lot in and of itself. You’re right that help in Arizona could mean a lot more, what with 10 electoral votes, and I can see the problems Richardson could pose for Bush in Texas, but I still have a hard time seeing Texas swing Democrat, at least with Bush as the incumbent.

However, Richardson can be attacked on what happened at Los Alamos, especially the whole Chan Ho Lee debacle (apologies if I spelled his name wrong), during his time as Energy Secretary, though I don’t know enough about the relationships between the cabinet positions and the DOD and DOE to be willing to assign blame to anyone not actually working at Los Alamos. I don’t know much about his time as a Representative (not my district) and I think we can probably ignore the time spent as UN Ambassador.

I don’t know who Safire is.
What do you mean by a source? A source that HRC will have to wait until 2012 if Kerry wins, a source that she wants Bush to win, or a source that it will be easy for a Democrat to win in '08 if Bush wins in '04?

The first one is logical/factual. If Kerry wins in '04 he will run in '08. Win or lose is will be 2012 before another Dem can run.

The second one is purely opinion. If this is how she feels she would obviously NEVER admit it because of political reasons. I don’t think it’s very far-fetched though.

The third one is…mostly opinion. Like him or hate him, Bush is an “extremist.” He’s VERY religious, VERY, pro-war, VERY anti-abortion, VERY pro-business…etc. This will eventually turn off all the swing/undecided voters that haven’t already been turned off by him and lead to a Democrat winner in the '08 election. If you think a lot of people hate Bush now, wait and see what this message board looks like in the summer of 2008 if he gets re-elected this year. Like I said, that’s mostly just my opinion but I wouldn’t be shocked if it was backed up by polls/statistics.

Her politics might have something to do with it:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/06/28/politics2039EDT0165.DTL&type=printable

There are times that I envy you.

Safire is a columnist for the New York Times and he keeps claiming that Hillary is setting Kerry up to lose so that she has a shot in 2012. That was why Clinton supported Clark. Because Clark is a Clinton puppet who was a sacrificial lamb. And with the blood of a sacrificial lamb, then Clinton can open the portals of hell, unleashing zombies and other nasty stuff.

And I was wondering if you had a source for this:

because that is precisely the sorta crap that Safire prints. Of course, he also uses a literary device of pretending to channel Nixon, so make of that what you will.

If Bush is re-selected this November the hatred will only increase, it is true. However, that doesn’t mean that the Demos will easily win in 2008. What if McCain runs then? He could probably beat any Democrat (except maybe Bill Clinton, but he can’t run). The same would have been true for Colin Powell too, but he’s blown any chance he had to be Prez by laying down and taking Dubya’s immoral war-mongering right up the rear. SeeYa, Colin!

Sounds like irrational hatred to me…

It takes more than two parents to raise a child. And the rest that you heap solely on Hillary such as the health care debacle was torpedoed and turned into a trainwreck by the crafters of the Contract on America.

It is without due cause, and has always looked to me like a bunch of scared little boys afraid of a powerful, competent woman.