Tried Natural Ovens Keto Friendly Bread this week.
No bad at all. Expensive for what you get but one of the best Keto breads I’ve had yet.
But reviews are all over the place regarding whether this is really a keto product and whether or not it will kick you out of Ketosis.
Any opinions or sites on this particular bread?
What about the reviews suggests that it will kick you out of ketosis? I checked your link, and the nutrition facts say “12g total carbs, 12g fiber”. 12 - 12 = 0 net carbs. Unless I’m missing something or people think the nutrition facts are a lie, I don’t understand what the controversy would be.
I mean, a bread-like product that is 0 net carbs is a bit hard to swallow (hehe), but even if they’re fudging the carb numbers a little with a ridiculously small serving size or something, it should still be a very low-carb product.
Except there are a couple of videos out there where the reviewer takes a blood test(s) and shows it does kick them out of ketosis.
I’m trying to get the Straight Dope on it.
BTW, I don’t blood test.
Yeah I’ve been doing some form of low carb diet for a decade or so now due to blood sugar issues.
And I am personally skeptical of the whole net carbs thing (from a blood sugar point of view), I mean I don’t get the biological processes that mean that makes sense. I get generally you want more fibre as is means sugar is absorbed more slowly but I don’t get how that means you can just do a simple subtractoin of the mass of fibre from the mass of sugar and come up with a meaningful value.
I mean if I eat candy and an equal mass of fiber from ultra high fiber bran does that mean I’m not eating any sugar effectively?
That said I’m not a doctor, nutritionist, or anyone else professionally qualified to be expert on this.
From another lay person, this is exactly what I was thinking.
Also, I know “anything to lose weight” but folks, please don’t breathe on me if you’re in ketosis.
My understanding of “net carbs”, and disclaimer-- I am far from a nutritionist, so I could be wrong, is that fiber is considered a form of carbohydrate for the purposes of nutrition facts info; but fiber is not digested or absorbed by the body. So if something is say, 10 grams total carbs with 4 grams of fiber, the 6 net carbs are the ‘real’ carbs that your body is processing.
A snickers bar has 27 net carbs.
A dose of metamucil (mixed with 8 ounces of water) is 5 grams of fiber. So you could theoretically chug well over a quart of the stuff (while eating your candy) to counteract the sugar.
Of course, I’m pretty sure that much metamucil would wring you out like a sponge and ‘counteract’ everything you’d eaten in the last day or so.
But that whole ‘counteract’ thing is really just a back-of-the-napkin calculation to help a diabetic make good choices. Careful blood sugar monitoring will tell you much more, and much more accurately, about your meals.
A “rule of thumb” (as opposed to science) among many of us with Type 1 diabetes who inject insulin based on the number of carbohydrates we are about to ingest is by subtracting 1/2 the amount of fiber the product claims to have from the amount of carbohydrate the product claims to have you will end up at a reasonably accurate carbohydrate number. (Hope that made sense).
Keep in mind that the FDA allows nutrition labels can be inaccurate by up to 20%.
I think it’s a little bit more complicated than net carbs and there’s a range of individual levels for ketosis. I’m personally not a fan of manufactured replacement foods. Like, I don’t know why vegans would want to eat fake hot dogs when the real thing isn’t exactly a delicacy. Same goes for keto/low-carb and bread. I’m no longer doing any version of keto/low-carb since I’ve come to the conclusion that for me the net benefits aren’t much. But there was a time that IF and low-carb combined were a lifesaver for me. Never tested for ketosis, though, and not sure how much I was actually in it.
Yeah personally I think the benefit of low carb diets, for those who are just trying to lose weight rather than specifically keep their blood sugar down for medical reasons, is they rule out pretty much any processed snack or fast food. Its not until I tried and be serious about going low carb that I realized almost everything processed has sugar in it somewhere (or corn syrup of course).
That’s not how net carbs work. In net carbs Sugar always counts, fiber never counts, one does not cancel out the other.
Basically total carbs listed -(minus) undigestible carbs (usually fiber, though there are others such as some sugar alcohols ) = net carbs.
I’ve been on the low carb trail for decades, well not so much now, but when keto was Atkins. These types of products did tend to knock me out of ketosis and I always suspected it was not all that was stated, but It didn’t knock me out of ketosis badly and I could get back on it with some extra exertion pretty quick. However those items I had to use as once in a while treats and not lets say make lunch with that bread every day.
You’re right, that was incorrect. It’s been a long time since I paid close attention to it.
The problem with getting knocked out of ketosis and then going back in is I feel like shit for 2-3 days after I go back in,
I’m not diabetic, just trying to drop the 18 pounds I gained over the winter.
Keto is the most miserable diet in the world, but it freaking works for weight loss if you stay true to it.
The fact that it’s miserable is why many don’t stay true to it.
Speaking as a relatively newly diagnosed type-2 diabetic, I’ve lost 60 (since Hune) pounds and cut my A1C by more than half and never went near keto. I did cut my carb intake, but it was more about exercise and portion control.
Most diets are miserable in one form or the other. But keto works best and quickly. The biggest problem with it is you cannot cheat on it at all or you get knocked out of ketosis.
“Net carbs” is marketing woo.
Source: I know several Registered Dietitians and they all say so. Also, I’ve been doing low carb for more than two years and have experimented with introducing “net carbs” into the equation with predictable results.
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