You speak for yourself. My honest answer is that I hope for them to be themselves, straight or gay. This ain’t some PC claptrap, either. That’s the way I feel and I have always felt.
I find this offensive. 
As I just posted in another thread, I previously held a view on gender-identity issues that would have been considered offensive to those in that community. I would have been in my early thirties at the time. Now, I am in my late thirties, and my views on that have been completely changed, as I learned more about it and examined my own thoughts and feelings on the subject. And from that, I grew into a more thoughtful person on that issue, and do not like my previous stance.
People grow and learn every day. I think the change in my position was only as long ago as 2014, so three years after Hart’s tweet. If I can completely evolve in that time, why couldn’t he?
My kids have always known that we would accept them, and all options are on the table. I don’t care one whit if they grow up gay, straight, bi, trans, whatever… as long as they are happy with who they are.
And still have a useful opinion on who should host the Oscars? I suppose it’s a free country.
No, see, it’s funny because he…no, I got nothing unless there’s some significant context missing.
I’ve enjoyed some of Hart’s film work (Central Intelligence, Jumanji) although the bits of his standup I’ve seen have not impressed me and he seems to have a reputation as a bit of a dick with regard to his standup tours. And I accept that people say dumb and sometimes hurtful stuff they later regret (as I certainly have). But if Hart’s earlier comments were going to be a massive distraction at the Oscars (luvviefest that they are) then Hart is probably right to step down and let someone else take the helm.
Sure. I don’t have an opinion as to who should win the Oscars, but I can have an opinion about who should host them (although I don’t).
Trump, for example, should not host the Oscars. Neither should Rosanne Barr. I can say that without having any idea about the films in contention.
Anyone can have an opinion on anything. You’ll note I used the adjective “useful”. If you don’t give a crap about popular movies, I would suggest you extend that to not giving a crap about the awards ceremony for popular movies. But hey, like I said, it’s a free country.
I’m on board with that. I can see how my comments might be read to conclude I care about the Academy’s decision. I don’t really. Although I know enough (now) to see why they were uncomfortable with Mr. Hart, and I can support that (in a not giving a crap kind of way)
FWIW, I do know the guy and I actually think he’s a shit comedian. Honestly can’t stand him. Since I get forced to watch the Oscars every year, I’m rather happy he’s out.
The problem these days is that the very concept of a statute of limitations has been tossed out the window. It’s one thing to have consequences–it’s entirely another for several years or (in some cases) even decades to go by where there were no consequences and then BAM! suddenly it seems like the whole world decides, “Guess what? There are major, news-making consequences for what used to be a very minor thing–a thing that had been forgotten until we decided to rake up.”
I’ve liked all the recent hosts, really. Every time someone bitches about the latest host I’m baffled.
I find this offensive…
Offensivsenitvity!!!
Bonus point for naming the reference.
That is not the way that words do harm. One kind of harm they can do is to make people feel horrible about themselves, or afraid they are beyond the pale, or to reinforce their already existing sense of worthlessness. Especially children who are just realizing they might be gay, and are afraid to talk to their parents about it because of a joke like that (and maybe a parent who laughed at it).
I don’t know (or care) anything about Jimmy Kimmel or what he has said or done. I don’t care who hosts the Oscars. I don’t care who is offended by what. But I do care that people understand that their words can have power.
I don’t really have a strong opinion on the Kevin Hart situation, but I find your use of the word, “Waterhead”, amusingly ironic, given the stance you are taking.
It’s gone way past “apology” and is now “you must continually grovel and beg for forgiveness until Twitter slacktivists are satisfied.”
1929 William C. deMille & Douglas Fairbanks
1930 William C. deMille
1931 Conrad Nagel
1932 Lawrence Grant
1933 Lionel Barrymore & Conrad Nagel
1934 Will Rogers
1935 Irvin S. Cobb
1936 Frank Capra
1937 George Jessel
1938 Bob Burns
1939 ***** No Host *****
1940 Bob Hope
1941 Bob Hope
1942 Bob Hope
1943 Bob Hope
1944 Jack Benny
1945 John Cromwell & Bob Hope
1946 Bob Hope & James Stewart
1947 Jack Benny
1948 Agnes Moorehead & Dick Powell
1949 Robert Montgomery
1950 Paul Douglas
1951 Fred Astaire
1952 Danny Kaye
1953 Bob Hope & Conrad Nagel
1954 Fredric March & Donald O’Connor
1955 Bob Hope & Thelma Ritter
1956 Claudette Colbert & Jerry Lewis & Joseph L. Mankiewicz
1957 Celeste Holm & Jerry Lewis
1958 Bob Hope & Jack Lemmon & David Niven & Rosalind Russell & James Stewart & Donald Duck
1959 Bob Hope & Jerry Lewis & David Niven & Laurence Olivier & Tony Randall & Mort Sahl
1960 Bob Hope
1961 Bob Hope
1962 Bob Hope
1963 Frank Sinatra
1964 Jack Lemmon
1965 Bob Hope
1966 Bob Hope
1967 Bob Hope
1968 Bob Hope
1969 ***** No Host *****
1970 ***** No Host *****
1971 ***** No Host *****
1972 Sammy Davis Jr. & Helen Hayes & Alan King & Jack Lemmon
1973 Carol Burnett & Michael Caine & Charlton Heston & Rock Hudson
1974 John Huston & David Niven & Burt Reynolds & Diana Ross
1975 Sammy Davis Jr. & Bob Hope & Shirley MacLaine & Frank Sinatra
1976 Goldie Hawn & Gene Kelly & Walter Matthau & George Segal & Robert Shaw
1977 Warren Beatty & Ellen Burstyn & Jane Fonda & Richard Pryor
1978 Bob Hope
1979 Johnny Carson
1980 Johnny Carson
1981 Johnny Carson
1982 Johnny Carson
1983 Walter Matthau & Liza Minnelli & Dudley Moore & Richard Pryor
1984 Johnny Carson
1985 Jack Lemmon
1986 Alan Alda & Jane Fonda & Robin Williams
1987 Chevy Chase & Goldie Hawn & Paul Hogan
1988 Chevy Chase
1989 ***** No Host *****
1990 Billy Crystal
1991 Billy Crystal
1992 Billy Crystal
1993 Billy Crystal
1994 Whoopi Goldberg
1995 David Letterman
1996 Whoopi Goldberg
1997 Billy Crystal
1998 Billy Crystal
1999 Whoopi Goldberg
2000 Billy Crystal
2001 Steve Martin
2002 Whoopi Goldberg
2003 Steve Martin
2004 Billy Crystal
2005 Chris Rock
2006 Jon Stewart
2007 Ellen DeGeneres
2008 Jon Stewart
2009 Hugh Jackman
2010 Alec Baldwin & Steve Martin
2011 James Franco & Anne Hathaway
2012 Billy Crystal
2013 Seth MacFarlane
2014 Ellen DeGeneres
2015 Neil Patrick Harris
2016 Chris Rock
2017 Jimmy Kimmel
2018 Jimmy Kimmel
Alhough no one requested it, here’s a list of all hosts of the Academy Awards ceremony.
(Sorry for this rather large posting.)
I remember Hartˋs routine, it was bizarre. He was killing it, and in the middle of the show busted that homophobic crap out of nowhere. It wasn’t political commentary, sarcasm, or even dark humor. There was some shock and some mild laughter, but I think it was mostly WtF!?! from the audience.
You are correct, at least in my case.
Upon reading more about Kevin Hart’s past statements it is clear that he does indeed have a serious issue with gay people that can’t be handwaved away with “I was just joking, afterall, I’m a COMEDIAN, yo!”. He seems to be a truly nasty piece of work (in my opinion, as the measure of the man, cheating on his wife while she was 8 months pregnant with his child is every bit as bad as his vulgar homophobic tweets, in fact, actually probably worse) who is clearly only sorry that he is getting called out for being an asshole at this late date, as I am sure in his arrogant mind the “Statute of Limitations” had long passed.
I remember he was on an episode of “Modern Family” as a hip doctor friend of Phil’s, and I thought he was a lock to be a recurring character, but it turned out to be a one-off shot. I now wonder if his past comments had anything to do with that?
With that said, there are plenty of others who seem to be Teflon when it comes to this kind of behaviour largely getting a pass, Alec Baldwin and Jimmy Kimmel are two who spring to mind.
A little off topic but how do they have the Oscars without a host?