Kevin Hart Steps Down From Hosting The Oscars

Never apologise to people who hate you. They don’t see it as growth but as weakness and continue to pound you with it. When the atheists require autos-de-fe it just becomes funny.

That’s certainly a risible choice of words.

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But of course the problem is “people are too easily offended” and not “Kevin Hart is an unapologetic bigot”.

The folks who run the Oscars are not just saying words, they told him apologize or get fired. Criticism is fine, censorship is not.

Censorship is fine too. Good character clauses in artists’ contracts are as old as Hollywood.

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That is not how jokes work. If it were Polish people would have been the most discriminated against group. By allowing groups to laugh at themselves and other it shows a shared humanity and having a sense of humor about yourself is much healthier than trying to find outrage all around you.
No one thought Kevin Hart was actually going to attack his kid if he was gay anymore than they thought Henny Youngman was asking people to kidnap his wife.

I wouldn’t want to live in a world where people didn’t care about the feelings of others. But I do want to live in a world where people understand the jokes are to be taken in jest. It is a much better world than the one where humorless scolds get to decide what comedians get to say.

Can you expand upon this a little? It seems like you are saying that once the Oscars decided to pick him as host, not matter what he says or said can be used to terminate his hosting contract? If they do terminate the contract, then it’s censorship?

A bunch of the Twitter “jokes” boil down to “that guy looks like a fag”.

Won’t someone please think of the poor bigoted audiences longing for queer jokes to make them laugh? So homophobic insults in a comedy routine bring joy to so many people? You know what? Fuck them, if that’s what they like.

You’ve clearly never had to deal with these kinds of issues in your own life.

You are right about one thing, our feelings aren’t controlled by other people. But there has to be some other influence to counter what bullies and other disgusting people say, especially for young people who are still developing. Are you going to tell a 12-year-old to get over it because he should be emotionally stronger? I pray you don’t have children, or that they had a better influence in their lives than you.

Who can forget the classic comedic genius of “I’d beat my son if he was a fag”.

Wives actually being kidnapped at the behest of their husbands is a rather rare event, and the only example I actually can think of is the movie “Fargo,” which isn’t a true story.

Kids being beaten for being gay, even by their parents, is rather a common thing. Gay kids are much more often the victims of abuse and violence than kids as a whole.

That’s why it wasn’t funny.

I have said this before and will again; anyone who thinks comedians can’t tell jokes anymore for fear of being shouted down has never, ever been in a comedy club. Comedians today are edgier, grosser and more prone to trying to make their audiences uncomfortable than they have ever been. How they choose to attack your sensibilities is changing - as it always has - but they’re pushing the envelope as hard as ever. Jokes about “fags” are pathetically hack, anyway. The reason they’re getting shouted down isn’t just because they’re offensive, it’s because they’re offensive and they aren’t funny.

There are legitimate non-homophobic reasons to hope your kids are heterosexual. Because the world is cruel to non-heterosexuals, most people would hope to spare their kids from cruelty. But that’s not the only consideration.

But do you really think nobody hopes their kids are gay?

I have to imagine at least some gay people hope their kids are gay. Because people want their kids to be like them. It’s a shared experience thing.

There are deaf people who want their kids to be deaf.

I hope my kids grow up liking math puzzles and comic books, even though my experience is that the world is often not very kind to kids like that (though comic books seem to be pretty mainstream these days)

Hart’s job is to ask for money in exchange for saying things. It’s absolutely legitimate for people to stop paying him if they don’t like what he says. That’s not censorship.

But that’s — wait, what do you think “words” are?

Is calling him a bigot any different than someone calling a gay person a faggot?

Nice try, but “bigot” is NOT a hate slur however much some may want to claim it to be.

Yes. Yes it is. In quite a lot of ways.

One is insulting someone for an intrinsic characteristic they were born with and cannot change. The one is a descriptor based on things someone has said or done of their own volition. One cannot stop or avoid being gay, but one can, with little effort, stop or avoid being a bigot. In addition, being gay doesn’t impinge on other people directly in a negative fashion, whereas being a bigot does.

There are deaf people who want their kids to be deaf? :confused:

You may be right, but I would have to call those people incredibly selfish and stupid.
Parents usually want what’s best for their kids, or at least good parents do.

Wanting your kid to be deaf or gay just because you are, is incredibly self centered.
Actually the more I think of it the less I find it plausible .