Probably just read KGS’ aura.
Comparing the SDMB where nitpicking words and ideas is the norm to behavior on a street corner? Really?
If someone’s being wrong leads to them hanging black people, you ridicule it because it needs to be ridiculed. If someone’s being wrong leads to them taking photos with a Kyrlian camera, you respectfully disagree and remain cordial.
If you can’t see the difference perhaps it is you who is retarded.
Yes, because the American Idol thing was the vital part of my post :D:rolleyes::smack:
It’s a common misconception, but high horses don’t help you any in navigating the obstacle course of cogent argumentation.
As these things sometimes do, the conversation has devolved from the original observation into theatrical asides and minor equivocations. Was the Grand Canyon created by a glacier? Don’t look at this hand, look at this one. See? Here’s the penny.
My point, and it must be my fault for not having communicated it more clearly, is merely this: there is a time and a place for holding people accountable for their statements. However, when it becomes apparent that the speaker is not accountable—for whatever reason—it is unseemly, in fact disrespectful of human dignity, to continue to taunt and humiliate him. Only those of us with the basest of instincts will poke the caged animal with a stick for our amusement. If that’s you, then you have my condolences.
You may do it lying to yourself that you’re “fighting ignorance,” but deep down, we all know better.
Oh, and Rubystreak, you speak with the authority of several centuries of support. I wonder how enthusiastic you’d have been to drink the hemlock yourself back then. Crazy was nothing compared to heretic.
And I don’t “own magic Internet Diagnostic Glasses that gift (sic) you with ability to accurately diagnose total strangers’ medical conditions by peering into the pixels they leave behind on computer screens.”
Nah. Never claimed to. Just a sense of moral decency and the ability to invoke it.
Do you really think that we are going to set up KGS in his own private palace with his own servants for his retirement?
Cite that anyone has ever said this? Check the banner at the top of the page, it says, “Fighting ignorance since 1973.” Hard to fight ignorance when you stand there and allow it to be flaunted with indulgent smiles all around.
Looks like somebody’s never spent any time in Hyde Park at Speaker’s Corner. Yes, that is EXACTLY what goes on there, and I’d say the Dope is a close Internet analogue to Speaker’s Corner.
Do you still keep smiling and tapping when your obstreperous guest gets up on the table, pulls out his dick and pisses in your food? My, such a saint you must be, I bet your mother is just loving her halo.
Smart.
Nope, on account of Galileo was right, and had science on his side. I have to agree, you really suck at analogies. Don’t quit your day job.
So, what precisely makes him not accountable? I think he’d be offended at the suggestion, though you’re welcome to make it.
Indeed, as I already said, you’re welcome to take part in that thread, steering it in whichever way you think it needs steering. You’re welcome to, in short, take responsibility for your ideas and put them right into motion. No one is stopping you.
I’m not so sure that this group or this board has ever claimed to be unbiased and detached.
That being said, I have a serious issue with people who tell others to keep an open mind when what they’re really saying is: “Believe everything I say without questioning any of it.”
Engaging one’s skeptical mind and questioning what one is being told is not necessarily “biased” any more than failing to do so is unbiased. Failing to question what you’re being told is simply “incredibly stupid”.
So when you come at me with an idea that I find unlikely, counter-indicated or just plain silly; it doesn’t help your case to attack me for being biased or intolerant. That only works with weak willed patsies who want to be friends with everyone and have no mind of their own for fear of being wrong or of offending someone with their own beliefs.
Dude, your sense of self righteousness and holier than thou attitude is pretty amusing. It’s like watching a guy throwing stones from a glass house. You really need to get over yourself. And if I was KGS I would tell you to go fuck yourself for being a condescending ass. You are more dismissive and giving him less respect than the worst flamer in that thread.
No, I’m doing it because KGS is a stupid, addle-pated nincompoop who insists beyond all reason that the plural of “anecdote” is “data,” and that scientists are “out of touch” for using the correct terminology for their research.
Since the whole giant pile of shit is in the Pit, I haven’t felt any need whatsoever to be calm or considered in my criticism of the aforementioned buffoon. Fuck you right in your stupid neck for comparing this putrid stoma to Galileo.
The religion discussion between Voyager and myself was pretty good, even if it was hardly anything new for these boards. Now I feel bad for losing interest and letting the spotlight go back onto KSG.
You’re the one who made the stupid analogy.
Well chosen nickname, kudos.
Why does simply being wrong offend you so deeply?
It doesn’t offend me that deeply. Well, misrepresenting the entire discipline of science IS pretty goddamned offensive - but really, I’m just in love with the sound of my own voice.
Whoa where’s this hostility come from? I asked a specific question about where not tolerating behaviors became hypocritical. From the content of your post (mentioning liberal PC elite and homosexuality) it went far wider then anything KGS had touched on in that thread so I was asking you to clarify. Clearly you’re dealing with enough issues of your own and I’ll leave you to it.
You mean, they’re not?
The rest of your post, I agree with. I don’t like the idea of special treatment in special cases unless they ask for it.
Reminds me of a story I like to tell. I used to run a daycare center out of my home with my best friend Xina. We used to have races and games and stuff with the kids all of the time. I used to always let the kiddies win and say, “Aww, you beat me again, little Keisha!”
But not Xina. Oh, no. When Xina heard “GO” in the phrase “Ready…set…GO!”, she took off like a shot! She pumped her stallion like legs with all of her might and she crushed those kids! Left them choking on her kicked up dust! Used to crack me up every time. She also did this in checkers, coloring, whatever! If the kids asked her to play, she put in her 100%.
One day, one of the kids said to her, “Could you play checkers with me, but take it easy on me! I’m just a kid.” And Xina said, “Ok”, and she let the kid win that time.
A rambling pointless story maybe, but I think my point is, if a person thinks they can stomp with the big dogs, they gotta be ready to stomp.
That’s why many people don’t respond to his BS.
on second thought, it’s not worth it
Just to be clear.
At no point did I endorse the science or conclusions of KGS.
At no point did I suggest that the logical arguments brought against his views were less than cogent and accurate.
I made it clear that I thought his OP in the Pit was a mistake.
That said, I do think that his subsequent taunting and humiliation for 15 pages was nothing short of degrading and a poor reflection of the SDMD. Let us suppose that he imagined his wit was rapier sharp and that he was tilting at windmills and winning. We all could see the obvious truth, and it was saddening. Prolonging it for someone’s amusement was an abuse. If that makes me sound superior, well, I can live with that.
But I have to point out that the emperor has no clothes.