Kid flying camera equipped drone over beach assaulted for being a pervert.

OK, if you don’t like those examples, try these:

(1) A teenager is listening to music on her computer. Music piracy is extremely common - certainly more common than voyeurism. What do you do given that possibility?
(2) You notice a young person who is drinking a beer in a bar. They are not causing any problems, just drinking. Fake IDs are fairly common. What do you do given that possibility?
(3) You are surrounded by people who almost certainly cheat a little on their taxes. What do you do about this possibility?

I’ve never really understood the worry about others using anyone’s likeness for wank material without their permission. Sure, it’s gross and disturbing, but considering the nature of the internet, folks undoubtedly will have so many images out their of themselves in a lifetime (especially going forward), that it’s impossible to really give two shits about. And even if I somehow found out that some anonymous stranger was getting off to me in my 80s prom dress every night? I still can’t find the energy to care. It has zero impact on my life.

But, I will say that this thread is interesting, to say the least, and why I’m glad that I’ve decided (as an amateur photographer myself) to stick almost entirely to shooting anything but people. They be cray cray.

You can’t revoke it any more than you can revoke any other public contact or observation. The thought that you’d be able to is ridiculous.

Personally, I take it as a compliment. JPEGs? PM me.:smiley:

Well, no… but of course your personal space can be violated by somebody staring at you, even without a camera… and if a 13 year old starts ogling at people you would tell him to control himself.

Seriously, it’s like I’m speaking to aliens.

I wouldn’t do anything, because they aren’t doing anything to me. I would certainly react if any of them was stealing MY music, drinking in my bar and risking my license, or recording me or my loved ones without my permission.

I find it insane that I have to explain that, and that you act like you wouldn’t.

I feel I should add that I actually despise having my picture taken - probably more than most people in this thread. Nevertheless, if I was on a public beach and somebody was taking pictures, it wouldn’t occur to me that they were taking pictures of me specifically. And if they were taking pictures of me specifically, I wouldn’t feel like I had any right to make them stop - not unless they were taking the pictures a foot away from me, or were clearly following right behind me as I moved around, or something like that.

My ego isn’t large enough to declare that people should be prevented from taking my picture if I’m in a public place.

But again, you have a line. Somebody crosses that line, then you react. So that somebody hasn’t got complete freedom to take your picture.

And that’s good, because that’s normal. Claiming otherwise, now that boggles the mind.

By default, if it’s legal it’s acceptable behavior.

Thus far you’ve offered no reasons at all that it should be illegal or even considered impolite. Do you have any to offer?

I’ve spoken at large about personal space and the impoliteness of violating it, even if it’s just by looking at somebody. Even when it’s legal.

Are you seriously claiming not to understand the concept? Or are you being facetious?

you have described yourself here as having a short fuse and a confrontational nature and your posts indicate that your arbitrary level of acceptable contact and observation from others is well short of what the law and social norms allow, but you insist people should give your needs more weight than they legally deserve; I’m inclined to agree with Zebra.

I haven’t, and I don’t- I’ve said that if somebody stares intently at me, then I may ask them why, and that’s the only time I’ve said anything remotely similar to being part of a confrontation… I also claim that to be completely normal behaviour. Not reacting in some form to the world around you isn’t. If somebody stares at you for a while and you do absolutely nothing, then I feel that it’s you and Zebra the ones with a problem.

The legal definition of “space”, if there is one, isn’t going to cary from person to person. Why would you think it would?

It seems like you’ve just arbitrarily decided that things should be a certain way, with no evidence or past history or any fact-based reasoning. I have no idea why you think your notions of personal space, politeness or impropriety should be taken seriously, let alone take precedence over anyone else’s notions, but they shouldn’t and they don’t.

I hope Sr Siete doesn’t find out what I’m doing while reading his posts right now. Not enough space in the world between us for him to be comfortable with it. Sorry, Mr. Seven.

You claim it be normal behavior but you already said that you have less tolerance for being stared at than most people, so your behavior, by your own description, isn’t normal, at least not how you perceive “normal”.

There is no legal definition of personal space. Are you seriously claiming that such thing doesn’t exist as social concept? That is a concept foreign to you?

You offer nebulous concepts with no concretes. I asked you several times for specifics and you decline to give them.

How close is too close? 40 yards? 12 inches? A kilometer? The width of two sheep and a basketball?

And why do we use your standard instead of mine?

I don’t think that my tolerance for being stared at is different from most people. You can go to the street and start staring at people and see what it takes for them to react.

And they can get mad at you. But then what? They can ask you to stop, but what if you don’t?

You don’t. You use your own standards for what you consider your private parcel in the world. Well, maybe not you, but at least most people do.