In this thread, an appalling hoax is described. In this particular instance, a person called a McDonalds, claiming to be a cop. He persuaded the manager to accuse a teenage employee of theft. She then had the girl strip naked, took her clothes, and detained her for hours. Then, when the manager’s fiance was brought in, the caller had the man force the girl to perform oral sex on him. The whole thing was caught on surveillance DVD. (Link to the story. )
Well, there’s a first time for everything. Maybe getting accused of being part of the offenderati is like getting Pitted–a SDMB rite of passage. I guess I’ve passed.
But seriously, if you don’t agree with me, at least argue your point. Telling me to “lighten up” is just lazy.
Okay, if you insist… Let’s see, I feel this thread is unnecessary and extremely harsh, making a crass joke does not render someone a sick fuck and you are unwarranted in your characterization of kidchameleon being sexually aroused by the act of rape (raping?). Smileys, abhorent as they are, were invented for a reason. In this case they denote a joke. That means the words were used for humorous effect and are not meant to convey the true feelings of the speaker. Your attitude is part of a worrying trend to sanitize all speech so that no one in the whole world might possibly be offended. I find the risk that some jokes might land short is worth it over losing the capacity to enjoy humor. Having said that, a serene statement of disaffection with such humor in the original thread would have been acceptable, in my opinion. So, how did I do this time?
By the way for what it’s worth I’m please you didn’t use the lame line “you don’t know what it’s like to go through that so you can’t talk”.
Alright, my turn. Hard to follow up Pedro’s fine effort, though.
kidchameleon made a tasteless joke, but it was obviously a joke. I’m not a big fan of tasteless jokes, but I recognize them for what they are - JOKES. As someone who uses sarcasm and fantastic exaggeration freely, I frequently find some other SDMB members are devoid of the gene that lets one spot either.
Howard Stern, Opie and Anthony, and a host of other media personalities have made quite good livings telling jokes like this. I don’t like them, I don’t listen to them, but I also do not call them "sick fuck"s simply for making jokes targetting their audience.
In the interest of posting my own tasteless joke, the article said “‘She was crying,’ recalled Kim Dockery, 40, another assistant manager, who stood by watching. ‘A little young girl standing there naked wasn’t a pretty sight.’”
Really? Geez, I thought that was the very definition of pretty. (OK, not the crying part, or the rape and humiliation part, and let’s remind ourselves that the “little young girl” was of consent age. Other tasteless joke disclaimers: Offer void in California and New Jersey. Results may vary. Serving suggestion. No purchase necessary.)
This isn’t a question of “lightening up.” We’re talking about a videotape of a teenage girl being stripped naked and sexually assaulted. Imagine for a second that the victim was your daughter or your sister or your girlfriend. Imagine telling someone that your daughter was sexually assaulted on videotape and then imagine the other person making a leering joke about wanting to see the tape. Is it funny?
I’m sure that Kidchameleon does not actually get off on the thought of watching a sexual assault on videotape. My guess is that his joke was more thoughtless than sadistic. Still. it was very bad form.
At common law, rape is sexual intercourse with a complaining witness, against the complaining witness’s will, by force, threat or intimidation or through the use of the complaining witness’s mental incapacity or physical helplessness. Sexual intercourse is the entry of the penis into the vagina. Any entry, no matter how slight, is sufficient to complete this element.
So at common law, forcible sodomy or oral copulation is not rape. Some jurisdictions define crimes like “forcible sodomy” or “criminal sexual assault” to punish such acts. Others include it in “rape.” It’s by no means a given that the correct word to use to describe the crime here is rape… IF Futile Gesture’s objection was focused on that distinction. If the objection was that the force element of rape wasn’t present… it is.
Hello-o-o-o-o-o Nurse! I was out hiking and a rattlesnake bit me right on the tip of my John Thomas, I’ll be needing a medical professional to suck out the poison.
Of course, and if it was a young girl being forced to perform oral sex at gunpoint we’d all be on the same page here. I think what’s tripping the bizzarometer is the notion that the only actual coercion is the gullibility of the people involved. On sober reflection we can realize that the offence is no less serious nonetheless - but the initial impression is that it’s just plain weird, and by the time we start thinking it through, the funnybone’s already been pinged. I mean, it’s not like I’d ever seriously unload a truckful of dead babies with a pitchfork, either.
I’m astonished that whoever-it-is has been getting away with it for so long though. :eek: