Hey, eat shit moron. I both learned to read and went to the arcade. It’s not my fault if you can’t think through a problem clearly.
I guarantee you that Mel Brooks is a real person who made jokes about rape, racism and flatulence, and that these things really do happen. Are you arguing that it is the degree of abstraction that makes humor acceptable? Did you think that kidchameleon was talking directly to the victim when he made his joke?
I kinda saw it as independent of my being a dick, but to each his own. My interest is a bit more principled: I want to defend the right to make bad jokes without hypersensitive pussies crying foul over it. To paraphrase some Frenchie who I’ve never heard of since I can’t read anyways, I may not like the joke, but I will defend to the dick his right to make bad jokes.
I think rape is sexy as long as the girl doesn’t get scream or get bruised or bloody or anything. You’ve never seen one of those “pretend rape” pornos? They’re better when they’re really cheesy and obviously faked IMHO.
Actually, that’s exactly what you were doing. Your thesis may have been “rape jokes are funny, blah blah blah” but your attempt to illustrate the point was just what I said, comparing fiction to fact.
I’m curious as to what exactly in my response to the OP has led you to mkae this comment. I’m pretty much done with the OP. I’ve moved on to the people slagging it.
But the fictional character from the fiction movie Blazing Saddles isn’t a real person and wasn’t talking about a real person. You don’t think there’s a qualitative difference between a fictional character jokingly saying “I like rape” and a live person jokingly saying “I think I need to examine this DVD [of a real person being sexually abused for hours] before I can render a judgement,” with or without smily?
But do not the hypersensitive pussies have exactly the same right to cry foul as the rape-comics to make the joke?
Which means nothing if you’re not equally willing to defend the pussy who objects to them.
Lots of people, lots of groups in this country, want to tell you how to talk. Tell you what you can and can’t talk about. Sometimes they’ll tell you, “Well, you can talk about it, but you can’t joke about it.” Comedians run into that shit all the time. Like rape. They’ll tell you, “You can’t joke about rape. Rape’s not funny.” I say, “Fuck you! I think it’s hilarious! How do ya like that?”
I can prove to you that rape is funny: picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See? Why do you think they call him Porky, eh? I know what you’re gonna say. “Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky. Porky couldn’t help himself. He got a hard-on. He got horny, he lost control, he was out of his mind.” A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it’s the woman’s fault. They like to blame the rape on the woman. They say, “Hey, she had it comin’. She was wearing a short skirt.” They think these women ought to go to prison for being cockteasers. Don’t seem fair to me. Don’t seem right. But you can joke about it.
I believe you can joke about anything. It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exageration is. Because every joke needs one exageration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion. I’ll give you an example. You ever see a news story like this in the paper? Some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was there he raped an 81 year old woman. And I’m thinking to myself, WHY? What the fuck kind of social life does this guy have? I want to say why did you do that? “Well, she was comin’ on to me. We were dancing and I got horny. Hey she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe!” I say, well Jesus Christ be a little fucking selective next time, will ya?
Dead Badger, that’s just sick. That went waaaaaay over the line. You should be ashamed for telling it. Just as ashamed as I am for laughing as hard as I did.
:dubious: Interesting! Let me try it on for size: I disagree with your effort to quash free speech, but I defend to the death your right to quash free speech.
Okay, you’re not exactly calling for censorship, right. Fine. I’ll still offer a spirited defense against name-calling, character assassination and pitting of those who attempt to make jokes that go awry.
I guess I’ll just have to be a hypocrite on this one.
Aww, but the joke is so much funnier if you leave in the crying.
Count me among those who think the OP needs to lighten up. Unless a particular joke is aggressively offensive (like telling holocaust jokes at a bar mitzvah), I honestly don’t understand why people take humbrage. When you see a tasteless joke that you don’t care for, the proper responce is to say “meh” and move on. When you decide to scold, you’ve probably lost perspective.