Karla Homolka ruined things for everyone.
There is WAY more to this story than is being revealed. She is definitely NOT a victim
nor is she in her words a “survivor.” I think she went willingly and that it was also
planned - text messages sealing the deal.
This girl has major issues and I would not be at all surprised if she did not play more
than a passive role in the death of her mom and brother.
Why? Because she’s blonde and cute? Why do people think this way?
He was a close FAMILY friend. She was away at camp. He picked her up. He told her a story about camping. She, alone or with her other family members had done things like this before. He TRICKED her. He had a crush on her. He was a pediphile!
What’s not being revealed ISN’T your, or anyone else’s business. She was probably raped and terrorized, but because she has poise and values her privacy, she must be complicit.
I was 23 years old when my father dropped dead of a heart attack at 57. I was not at all emotionally-equipped to deal with it.
I can’t imagine being 16 and having my mother and brother tortured and murdered. Maybe she did have some involvement, but I’m more inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt, and blame her demeanor and behavior on shock. There was being kidnapped, too.
I hope she’s getting counseling.
:)Oh, you.
Well, she is blond.
Might wanna rethink that last part.
We’ll probably never know the whole story. I personally think the DNA swab kit at his home is the key to whatever set him off. Either he discovered Hannah was his daughter or perhaps disproved it. Either way there doesn’t seem to be any other reason a single man would have a kit like that. Why that set him off to a double murder is the big question and something we’ll probably never know.
Interesting to learn for sure that he picked up Hannah at Cheerleading camp. He must have just kept on driving and never went home. Because the border patrol pics have that picture of him and Hannah 20 hours before his home burned by a timer fuse. That does seem to confirm that Hannah knew nothing about the murders until after her rescue.
I realize it’s all speculation. But I doubt we’ll learn anything more. Whatever happened I hope Hannah can resume a normal life and put this behind her.
“Two used condoms”. Hum. Maybe that was the “torture” part.
I didn’t just type that. Really. The dog ran over the keyboard.
Family tree DNA research and medical/genetic disease testing are two uses that come to mind.
Are you seriously making a joke about the attractiveness of a child who is only in national news because her family was killed, she was kidnapped, and she was likely sexually brutalized by this weird dude?
I bet you thought Limbaugh’s Chelsea Clinton joke was a laugh riot.
“Seriously”… “making a joke”. Roll that little paradox around your brainpan for a while. And if that’s the one that got ya, you ain’t payin’ attention!
And I can “seriously” tell you I’ve never listened to a word Limbaugh has ever said.
Now, what’s all this crud about no movie tonight?
" Duckface Selfies, the new album from Hannah Bill and the Eiderdowns. " 
Her behavior is sad confirmation of the deep-seated Me-ness of Me in the teenage generation that has grown up immersed in Social Media. There’s the cost-free Public Relations Campaign that is Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, InstaGram, etc etc. You mix the intoxicating power that comes with attention, approval and attraction from an older person with the baseline narcissism of a 16 year old and you wind up with a seamy myopia.
When the T shirts that read " Hannah Strong " are replaced with " Hannah Wrong ", the entire mindset that produces communities wearing shirts like that may get a sharp smack in the face. If she is truly a brainwashed victim in all of this, I pray she gets help because this will be a long road to mental health.
It sounds like she is not a brainwashed victim in all of this. Sounds like she does need a lot of help. The kind that has nothing to do with feel-good t shirts.
Of course, she needs help! She just went through an ordeal that would put most of us on our knees.
Did you people have the same reaction when Elizabeth Smart was found alive? If Hannah had been murdered and tortured would you feel better about her not being involved?
[Boon] Forget it, he’s rolling [/boon]
Have you read the CNN article, which outlines the reasons people are suspicious of Hannah?
FTR, I wasn’t suspicious of Elizabeth Smart for one nano-second, and the information that came out after her ordeal further confirms my opinion that she was 100% a victim. Also, FTR, as this case was unfolding, my first reaction was of her complete innocence. I’m a mother with two daughters, after all.
But in the week since she was rescued, I’ve become suspicious that this might not be the entire story. Her behavior after she was rescued, chatting on the internet and taking pictures of herself smiling, less than 3 days after her mother and brother and family dog (!) were murdered in cold blood, not to mention her own kidnapping and watching her captor be gunned down, raises my eyebrow. The fact that when the horse riders came upon them, she said, “We’re all in big trouble now.” made me go :dubious:.
As more information is released, it’s got from “hmm” to my hair being raised. First of all, the two of them had been on weekend trips together in the past. Not one, but multiple trips. They had texted each other prior to the murders before both turning off their cell phones at the same time. And most significantly, they were recorded by a border camera together 20 hours before the fire took place. All of this is certainly cause for reasonable people to become suspicious of her story. Add in that he took out a life insurance policy made payable to her grandmother, that her brother and mother were tortured before being killed … I mean, this is CLEARLY not an Elizabeth Smart situation here.
I read the CNN article. I find nothing in it that is any more that lurid speculation. This child will be tortured by the press and other detractors no matter what.
She went on Facebook, so what? She’s a teenager, Facebook is part of her daily life.
If she was a captive, how is being seen anywhere with her captor in any way her fault?
Yes, she’d been on trips with him in the past, with her parents’ knowledge and consent. How is this automaticly different? And, she should be held responsible for her captor’s decision as to who gets his insurance?
As far as smiling 3 days after her rescue, have you ever lost someone you loved?
You can not grieve 24/7. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, a death and dying authority, compares grief to staring into the sun. Grief is hard, it’s boring and painful. Having a moment or two when you stop thinking about what and who you’ve lost is natural and self-protective.
All I see is a poised young girl who has no context for such devastating experience. She’s coping in whatever way she can.
If I’m wrong I will apologize. But until proven guilty, I will assume her innocence.
Apologizing would be ridiculous. None would be necessary for giving the benefit of the doubt.
Can’t we have it both ways right now? Treat her as though she’s an innocent victim - either because she really had nothing to do with it, or because at her age and the inequality of the relationship with the dead creep she can’t be held responsible. But, at the same time, be suspicious and worry we’ve got a Long Island Lolita and budding monster on our hands, without capability of guilt nor remorse?
Works for me.
Definitely seems to be something weird about it. My first instinct would be that she and the kidnapper were romantically involved.
FWIW she said in an NBC interview that the 13 phone calls on the day of the kidnapping were text messages back and forth with DiMaggio guiding him on where to pick her up after practice. That seems like a reasonable explanation, it does take quite a few texts sometimes to coordinate things.
The whole “adult male being very close to a non-related kid” thing always smells fishy to me.
Even if she was involved in a sexual relationship with the man, who knows when it started? If he’d been raping her for years, for example, then she couldn’t consent all of a sudden just because she’s 16 now, even if she was so damaged by it that she thought they were in love or whatever. I don’t hold her responsible for it if they were sexually involved and she agreed to run away with him, but of course I do if she had any knowledge or involvement in her family being harmed, and I could easily see either being the case.
It’s also strange that he had been a close family friend for her whole life, and then for him to do something SO extreme? Didn’t the parents have any clue he was dangerous? I guess not, since they let him take her on trips. I know these things do happen sometimes, but I think usually there are at least some signs that people close to the person are ignoring.
We’d like to think so. It is too upsetting to conclude that there may just be people who do awful things with no warning.